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#1 FDAInvestigator

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:53 PM

I'm Tim Hight and a new member from the USA. I work in regulatory affairs for a large dairy cooperative in the Midwest and learned about this forum from Mary Anne Verleger in the Institute for Food Laws and Regulation program at Michigan State University where I am a student.

In my previous life I was an FDA Investigator but now I have come over to the dark (bright?) side in industry.

I'm looking forward to corresponding with you!


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Posted 25 June 2008 - 01:51 PM

I'm Tim Hight and a new member from the USA. I work in regulatory affairs for a large dairy cooperative in the Midwest and learned about this forum from Mary Anne Verleger in the Institute for Food Laws and Regulation program at Michigan State University where I am a student.

In my previous life I was an FDA Investigator but now I have come over to the dark (bright?) side in industry.

I'm looking forward to corresponding with you!



Hi Tim, and welcome to the forums.

It's nice to have another Dairy bod here too, I was starting to feel a bit lonely!

i'm looking forward to discussing the difference betwen US an UK Dairy practices.

caz xx
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:13 PM

Caz,

Can you tell me the impact of the EU FVO dairy audits on the UK in the wake of the scandal over the practices of Bowland Dairy in Lancastershire and its subsequent closure?

Thank you.

Tim


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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:13 PM

Caz,

Can you tell me the impact of the EU FVO dairy audits on the UK in the wake of the scandal over the practices of Bowland Dairy in Lancastershire and its subsequent closure?

Thank you.

Tim


how long do you have??

its been a nightmare. we've had to devide our waste product into two. Rework / inprocess ( which is what it says) and what used to be pig feed has now become waste.

Inprocess milk we can use if less that 48 hours has elapsed since packing and it hasnt left the foosd chain

Waste milk is further divided into 3 categorys.

3.2.2.1. Milk and milk products become a category 3 ABP when:
1. they are a former foodstuffs fit for human consumption, but no longer intended for that purpose:
2. they are derived from the production intended for human consumption: or
3. in the case of raw milk when it originates from animals that do not show clinical signs of any disease communicable to humans or animals through the milk
3.2.2.2. Milk and milk products become a category 2 ABP when:
1. they contain residues of veterinary drugs listed in group b(1) and (2) of annex 1 to Directive96/23/EC e.g. antibacterial substances including sulphonomides, quinolones, anticoccidials etc, and residues exceed levels set down in community legislation
2. derived from animals showing clinical signs of disease communicable to humans and animals via the milk

3.2.2.3. Milk and milk products become a category 1 ABP when:
1. they are derived from animals to which substances prohibited under Directive 96/22/EEC have been administered e.g. thyrostatic substances, stillbenes, beta-agnostics: or
2. They contain residues of environmental contaminants and other substances listed in Group B3 of Annex 1 of Council Directive 96/23/EC eg organochlorine compounds including PcB’s, organophosphorus compounds, chemical elements etc.

4.6.1. Category 3 milk and milk products shall be:
- Collected, transported and labelled as category 3 “not for human consumption” without undue delay: and then
- Disposed of by incineration, or treated in an approved category 1, 2, or 3 rendering plant: or
- Treated in a compost or biogas plant approved under the ABPR and licensed in accordance with the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994:or
- Used as fertiliser and soil improver in accordance with the rules on pasture land in Regulation 181/2006, and in accordance with the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994: or
- Applied to land in accordance with article 5.2 (e) under the ABPR and the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994:

Note: Category 3 and 2 products are permitted to be spread to land under the ABPR if the competent authority does not consider it to present a risk of spreading any serious transmissible disease. In addition, there are specific rules if milk is applied to pastureland, where it is intended for grazing by animals or for cropping feeding stuffs, these restrictions are:
- 2 months until pigs are permitted access, and
- 3 weeks for other farmed animal.

In addition, the Waste management Licensing Regulations 1994 only permit milk to be applied to land if an exemption (from licensing) has been registered with the Environment Agency.
or
- Treated in accordance with Regulation 79?2005 to be used in animal feed (when milk or milk products are sourced from food premises approved under the food hygiene legislation) or in accordance with the rules on former foodstuffs when strict separation from other animal by-products must be applied and agreed with the Local Authority. A test must be carried out to establish that the milk/products is in fact category 3 and does not contain residues of the veterinary drugs that exceed community levels or other substances mentioned above.

Note: Regulation 79/2005 allows milk and milk products that are Category 3 ABPs from dairy processing premises approved under the hygiene legislation to be used as feed material. In order to feed this material to farmed animals the premises must be registered with DEFRA.

4.6.2. Category 2 milk and milk products shall be:
- Collected, transported and labelled as category 2 “not for animal consumption” without undue delay: and then
- Disposed of by incineration or treatment in an approved category 1 or 2 rendering plant:or

In the case of milk and colostrums it may also be
- Treated in an compost or biogas plant approved under the ABPR and licensed in accordance with the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994: or
- Used as fertiliser and soil improver in accordance with the rules on pasture land in the Regulation 181/2006, and in accordance with the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994:or
- Applied to land in accordance with article 5.2 (e) under the ABPER and the Waste Management Licensing Regulations 1994.

4.6.3. Category 1 milk and milk products shall be:
 Collected, transported and labelled as category 1 “for disposal only” without undue delay: and then
 Disposed of by incineration: or
 Treated in an approved category 1 rendering plant.

if you need some further info, let me know.

caz x
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 08:48 AM

Welcome to the forums Tim. Great that you and Caz have linked up, it will be interesting to follow your dairy deabtes from either side of the pond.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 01:59 PM

Hi Caz,

Thank you for your very interesting information. Still learning to navigate the website- please excuse my delayed reponse.

Cheers :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:00 PM

Hi Simon,

Interesting board which I am still learning to navigate. Thanks for your insights- I have been reading them with interest.

Tim :rolleyes:


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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:56 PM

Hi Simon,

Interesting board which I am still learning to navigate. Thanks for your insights- I have been reading them with interest.

Tim :rolleyes:

Why thanks FDAI, we're glad to have you around. The more the merrier, please invite all of your friends.

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