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#1 Zeeshan

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 11:54 AM

Dear members! :helpplease:

Extending the discussion on ( http://www.ifsqn.com...showtopic=12836 ) I would like to ask two questions:

1- Can somebody provide contacts of suppliers of Foreign Body Detector that is suitable to detect metal, bone, plastic, glass etc in our ready-to-eat food products.

Suppliers from Italy and Germany will be of prime focus.

2- Whether there is any adverse affect on food using x-ray technology and whether X-Ray is the only technology in the market for detection of wide-range contaminants (metal, bone, plastic, glass etc).

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 07:11 PM

Zeeshan,
Here you have a supplier from Italy: http://www.prismaindustriale.it/


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Posted 07 December 2009 - 05:25 AM

Dear Antoni!

Thank you a lot for providing the link :smarty: . I'll contact them today.

BTW, have you bought any device, esp foreign body detector, from them? If yes, what was you experience about this supplier/manufacturer?

Thanks again and best regards:
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Posted 07 December 2009 - 08:57 AM

I bought a metal detector from Prisma and everything was right. They also have x ray detectors.
In Italy you can also try to contact with: http://www.ceia.net/


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Posted 07 December 2009 - 09:03 AM

Dear Zheeshan,

I am Kiran from Smiths Detection. Smiths Detection supplies x-ray system solutions for wide range of applications. I would be happy to discuss your application requirements and any questions for suitable x-ray solution. You may contact me at kiran.deochake@smithsdetection.com for specific details.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 01:02 AM

Dear Zeeshan,

Suppliers from Italy and Germany will be of prime focus


I am curious as to the reason :smile: . Are you trying to locate the most expensive options or is there some local benefit, eg reduced import tax, for yourself?

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 10:56 AM

I bought a metal detector from Prisma and everything was right. They also have x ray detectors.
In Italy you can also try to contact with: http://www.ceia.net/


Thank you antoni for your feed back!

BTW, http://www.ceia.net/ seems not dealing with X-Ray inspection equipment.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 11:12 AM

Dear Zheeshan,

I am Kiran from Smiths Detection. Smiths Detection supplies x-ray system solutions for wide range of applications. I would be happy to discuss your application requirements and any questions for suitable x-ray solution. You may contact me at kiran.deochake@smithsdetection.com for specific details.

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Dear Kiran,

Thank you for your response. To be clear, we are working over some selected companies of certain origin who are supplying or manufacturing foreing body detectors. Smith Detection is, definitely, one of them. We, no doubt, will contact you where we have proceeding or any queries.

Thank you and best regards:
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 11:24 AM

Dear Zeeshan,

I am curious as to the reason :smile: . Are you trying to locate the most expensive options or is there some local benefit, eg reduced import tax, for yourself?

Rgds / Charles.C


It's a management decision. :cm: . Neither I've asked them the reason nor they've told me the logic. :whistle:

BTW, if you can share pros and cons of this decision, I would be grateful. Not to be mentioned that in the scenario of ever increasing competition and overflowing manufacturing cost all middle-sized organizations look for better quality with reasonable cost. I presume that our management is assuming that equipment from Italy or Germany would be much cost-effective than that from Japan or USA.

But I am shocked to listen that in your opinion it is the most expensive option.
:dunno: .

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 10:03 PM

Dear Zeeshan,

But I am shocked to listen that in your opinion it is the most expensive option.


No idea about the "most". :rolleyes: To be honest, I was more intrigued by yr narrow choice of sourcing, my financial comment was based on average experience of various types of food processing / control equipment rather than specifically metal detectors and related. There may be an excellent reason for the target suppliers and cost effective (or not) will of course depend on the precise application / requirements / specifications, eg wet environments, sensitivity etc. For example, from experience, I personally like Mettler weighing equipment but it certainly isn’t cheap.

I noticed some of the products referred in the linked thread come from the countries you are mentioning ? To echo a previous comment, how do their costs compare (for equivalent features of course) to other origins ?

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Posted 09 December 2009 - 05:55 AM

There may be an excellent reason for the target suppliers and cost effective (or not) will of course depend on the precise application / requirements / specifications, eg wet environments, sensitivity etc. For example, from experience, I personally like Mettler weighing equipment but it certainly isn’t cheap.


100% agreed.

I noticed some of the products referred in the linked thread come from the countries you are mentioning ? To echo a previous comment, how do their costs compare (for equivalent features of course) to other origins ?


Till now we contacted so many countries belonging almost every region of the world - Including Japan, UK, Germany, Italy, Finland, Ireland and Australia. Till now we have received quotations and technical data of japanese brands only, so we still have no bases for comparision for prices and features. It past almost 1 week and we've received not a single word response from any European Company. Probably they are more interested in other regions of the world. :dunno:

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 03:50 AM

Dear Zeeshan,

I understand that you are contacting suppliers from selected origin. You mentioned Smiths Detection as one of them. Not sure, if you contacted Smiths Detection already. As mentioned earlier you can send me details and I will be happy to assist.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 10:27 PM

If you're trying to detect plastic or wood, industrial x-ray may not be the solution as it cannot detect materials less dense than water - as far as i remember. Just a thought.


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Posted 06 April 2010 - 05:46 PM

If you're trying to detect plastic or wood, industrial x-ray may not be the solution as it cannot detect materials less dense than water - as far as i remember. Just a thought.

Depending on the quality I would have thought an x-ray machine would be able to detect plastic and wood??? Does any member use x-ray inspection - what can / do you detect?

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