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#1 Cathy

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 04:50 PM

Could some of you share with me which retailers are requiring GFSI certification? In the U.S., it includes Wal-Mart, Price Chopper, CVS stores, and others. I think Tesco requires it - correct? Others?


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Posted 27 December 2009 - 04:18 PM

Could some of you share with me which retailers are requiring GFSI certification? In the U.S., it includes Wal-Mart, Price Chopper, CVS stores, and others. I think Tesco requires it - correct? Others?

Hi Cathy,

There are a large and ever growing number of GFSI supporters. Take a look at this GFSI Presentation from December 2009.

You may also want to take a look at this: Study: Retailers to Make GFSI Standards Mandatory for Store Brand Suppliers

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 04:38 PM

Thank you - that was helpful.


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Posted 28 December 2009 - 02:37 PM

We recently had a customer ask which GFSI standard we were working on obtaining. They were asking their suppliers because they wanted to determine which one they were going to mandate.

Kind of defeats the purpose of benchmarked standards...

Target is also backing GFSI and set a June 2010 "deadline" for its supplier (and hence its suppliers, suppliers).


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Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:02 PM

Dear Simon,

Fascinating links indeed. :clap:

To re-iterate the articles ending comments -

• Of the four accepted GFSI certification schemes 74 percent of respondents said they plan to accept Safe Quality Food (SQF); 61 percent British Retail Consortium (BRC); 48 percent the International Food Standard (IFS); and 45 percent Dutch HACCP. Multiple responses were accepted for this question. One retailer respondent wrote: “We will allow both SQF, and BRC. We are looking to move any vendor away from the Dutch HACCP component.”


A ringing vote of confidence in the GFSI scheme. ;) Shame that the governing logic for the different choices was not included, eg any geograhical correlations ??.

I take this to mean that there is disagreement over the GFSI's interpretation / application of "benchmarks". More information needed.

I also noticed in the rather 'cosy' text of the first link that no mention anywhere of "due diligence" as far as I cud see.

Additionally, as far as I understand, many (most?) of the big boys are rigorously maintaining their requirement that suppliers comply with their own (audited) individual systems on top of anything "GFSI".??

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 04:39 PM

Dear Simon,

Fascinating links indeed. :clap:

To re-iterate the articles ending comments -

A ringing vote of confidence in the GFSI scheme. ;) Shame that the governing logic for the different choices was not included, eg any geograhical correlations ??.

I take this to mean that there is disagreement over the GFSI's interpretation / application of "benchmarks". More information needed.

I also noticed in the rather 'cosy' text of the first link that no mention anywhere of "due diligence" as far as I cud see.

Additionally, as far as I understand, many (most?) of the big boys are rigorously maintaining their requirement that suppliers comply with their own (audited) individual systems on top of anything "GFSI".??

Rgds / Charles.C

Hi Charles,

It is definitely the way forward and there is a big GFSI conference in Washington USA in February. All of the big retailers and food producers are jumping on board. I think we’ll probably end up with BRC, SQF, IFS and ISO 22k in some guise. And yes some for now will still choose to write their own standards and carry out their own audits. i.e. Tesco and M & S.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:04 AM

Anyone planning to attend the GFSI Conference? I'll be there - let me know!

As for companies auditing despite GFSI compliance - yes - this is happening and I think it will continue a year or two until GFSI audits prove their worth. If a retailer does their own audit and finds problems with a supplier despite GFSI certification, they should report what they found to the company and the certification body. The whole GFSI scheme won't work unless all corrective actions are pushed back into the system where they need to be. Without that - this may just be a trend that will last only until the next big outbreak or recall.


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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:55 AM

Dear Cathy,

Is there actually such an entity as a "GFSI audit" in USA. I imagine BRC etc wud not promote this creature. :smile:

I suspect the problem for many of the largest retail companies is that the GFSI benchmarks are way below the detail of inspection which they require. The reasons are likely to be complex, eg local requirements, specific experiences, etc. Anyone who has (suffered?) experienced audits as per the requirements of jumbo final users in EC will I'm sure know this well. Another dimension is often involved.

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 11:23 AM

Anyone planning to attend the GFSI Conference? I'll be there - let me know!

As for companies auditing despite GFSI compliance - yes - this is happening and I think it will continue a year or two until GFSI audits prove their worth. If a retailer does their own audit and finds problems with a supplier despite GFSI certification, they should report what they found to the company and the certification body. The whole GFSI scheme won't work unless all corrective actions are pushed back into the system where they need to be. Without that - this may just be a trend that will last only until the next big outbreak or recall.

Totally agree Cathy. Over the past ten years or so step after step has been made towards a unified and trusted audit protocol. To its credit GFSI has continued the journey and it has great support. Let's hope this opportunity is not missed. I agree with you a robust feedback and Continual Improvement system is essential.

It should be an interesting year watching developments. Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to Washington, but it would be great if you could give use the latest news Cathy.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 01:24 AM

No - there are no "GFSI"audits per se. A GFSI audit would be any audit from a GFSI benchmarked standard.


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Posted 06 January 2010 - 04:36 PM

The National Confectioners Association in the US is holding a webinar on third party audits which includes a review of GFSI (http://www.candyusa....ItemNumber=2008)

You may need to be a member to join. I will share any information that I can after I go through it.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 03:56 PM

Thanks for the 'heads up' TS. It would be great if you could revert with a summary.

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