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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:32 AM

Hello to all,

 

I need some help.Im confuzed about declaration of type of drinking milk.If we use temepratute above 100degrees,but less than 135,what type of milk is ????It is not pasteurised,not sterilised???

Please for you comment.

 

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

What temperature are you using?


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:35 PM

We are planing to use 115 degrees...


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

for how long?

 

Do you not have a copy of the Tetra Manual?


Edited by cazyncymru, 10 September 2013 - 02:54 PM.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:55 PM

We are planing to use 115 degrees...

 

Sounds like high temperature pasteurised. Is this a HTST plant?

 

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:31 AM

  • Can you please uploaded tetra manuel?
  • We use 115/2sec

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:36 AM

115C for 2 sec. It is pasturized not sterilized. Need cold chain of supply.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

It would be pasteurized product, but more then likely it would be an extended shelf life product (ESL), filler dependant of course.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:48 PM

 the process of 115 c for 2 s is more likely a ultra pasteurization. 


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:25 AM

Hello every one. I have known that combine with temperature and times can called that:

If temperature is between 90-120 degrees temperature for 2-5 second, it's called HTST pasteurisation (High temperature short time)

If temperature is between 125-138 degrees temperature for 2-4 second. It's called Ultra pasteurisation 

And, if temperature is between 135-150 degrees temperature for 2-15 second. It's called UHT (ultra high temperature)


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

Hello every one. I have known that combine with temperature and times can called that:

If temperature is between 90-120 degrees temperature for 2-5 second, it's called HTST pasteurisation (High temperature short time)

If temperature is between 125-138 degrees temperature for 2-4 second. It's called Ultra pasteurisation 

And, if temperature is between 135-150 degrees temperature for 2-15 second. It's called UHT (ultra high temperature)

 

Ultra high-temperature (UHT) pasteurization is the same heating process as ultrapasteurization (138° C or 280° F for two seconds)
 

There seems to be quite a variation in definitions available. See attached from IDFA.

 

Attached File  249_Pasteurization Definition and Methods.pdf   42.7KB   14 downloads

 

Whilst as stated before my description would be 'high temperature pasteurized', for labeling purposes I would always revert to relevant legislation in the country of manufacture and sale.

 

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:01 PM

As per the PMO in the US:

 

FF. PASTEURIZATION: The terms "pasteurization", "pasteurized" and similar terms shall mean the process of heating every particle of milk or milk product, in properly designed and operated equipment, to one (1) of the temperatures given in the following chart and held continuously at or above that temperature for at least the corresponding specified time:

 

Temperature Time

63ºC (145ºF)* 30 minutes

72ºC (161ºF)* 15 seconds

89ºC (191ºF) 1.0 second

90ºC (194ºF) 0.5 seconds

94ºC (201ºF) 0.1 seconds

96ºC (204ºF) 0.05 seconds

100ºC (212ºF) 0.01 seconds

 

OO. ULTRA-PASTEURIZATION (UP): The term "Ultra-Pasteurization", when used to describe a dairy product, means that such product shall have been thermally processed at or above 138°C (280°F) for at least two (2) seconds, either before or after packaging, so as to produce a product, which has an extended shelf-life under refrigerated conditions. (Refer to 21 CFR 131.3.)

 

I don't see anything in it about sterilization or UHT or any of that.  But the PMO is large... and has lots of stuff... and is for the United States.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:34 AM

As per the PMO in the US:

 

I don't see anything in it about sterilization or UHT or any of that.  But the PMO is large... and has lots of stuff... and is for the United States.

 

Thanks MerleW

 

PMO is also applicable worldwide to suppliers providing milk products to US armed forces.

 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:38 AM

Hello every one

I have found news studying for heat treatment.

The studying (World Journal of Dairy & Food Sciences, 2007) had show HTST pasteurization of milk  72-75 15-20 Sec.

You can found it The Study on UHT Processing of Milk: A Versatile Option for Rural Sector


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:01 AM

Hello every one

I have found news studying for heat treatment.

The studying (World Journal of Dairy & Food Sciences, 2007) had show HTST pasteurization of milk  72-75 15-20 Sec.

You can found it The Study on UHT Processing of Milk: A Versatile Option for Rural Sector

So 115 C for 2 seconds will be UHT pasteurization.. 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:05 AM

Hello to all,

 

I need some help.Im confuzed about declaration of type of drinking milk.If we use temepratute above 100degrees,but less than 135,what type of milk is ????It is not pasteurised,not sterilised???

Please for you comment.

 

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I need some help.Im confuzed about declaration of type of drinking milk.If we use temepratute above 100degrees,but less than 135,what type of milk is ????It is not pasteurised,not sterilised???

Please for you comment.

 

Regards:)

 

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its UHT pasteurization.. 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:53 AM

So 115 C for 2 seconds will be UHT pasteurization.. 

 

In the UK such a product would be labelled as 'high temperature pasteurised'.

 

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