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[Simon]

With less than a year to the expected publication date of version 7 of the standard what do you expect or perhaps hope the changes will be?

[john.kukoly]

This is one topic I will be very interested in following! And please expand, from "what do you expec?t" to "what would you want?"

 

Just to be absolutely clear, the target publish date is January 2015, and July 2015 for when audits commence against BRC GSFS issue 7.

[Simon]

Not a want or desire, but I expect a mandatory unannounced element (to keep in step with SQF).  

Are you in a position to confirm or deny?

[Charles Chew]

I see further migration away from BRC-Food towards FSSC22000. 

[Madam A. D-tor]

I think the following issues will be added:

- food fraud;

- food defense;

- sustainability;

- technology exams for auditors (tBRC actually already started this)

 

I think the following items will be more stringent:

- validation of labelling information and allergen declaration ( still a lot of recalls on this)

- control of suppliers, espacially traders/brokers;

- requirements for high risk areas;

 

But actually, I hope no much is changed. Now working 2 years with BRC issue 6, and I only now starting to know this standard.

[Wine Gum]

Allergen management - far too many recalls happening due to undeclared allergens- and mandatory unannounced audits.

[naizil]

Allergen management - far too many recalls happening due to undeclared allergens- and mandatory unannounced audits.

is there any scope for classifying allergen's as separate category of hazards? 

[Simon]

This is just a small thing and not sure if in the current BRC food standard already, I know it's not in the packaging standard.

 

We currently have to control personal medicines in the standard, but what about other items such as spectacles, contact lenses, hearing aids etc.  We surely need to have a register of employees who have these and then determine what control measures are required e.g. loss/damage reporting and remedial action.  It could be lumped into a clause relating to "medical devices" and could include the aforementioned perhaps along with medical jewellery.  Maybe it's already included in V6.

[mavrek2010]

Allergen management

[mavrek2010]

Provide the number of product withdrawal and

product recall

[cazyncymru]

I see further migration away from BRC-Food towards FSSC22000. 

 

 

 I'm seriously considering this

 

Caz x

[mavrek2010]

Attention to Management of incidents

[cazyncymru]

This is just a small thing and not sure if in the current BRC food standard already, I know it's not in the packaging standard.

 

We currently have to control personal medicines in the standard, but what about other items such as spectacles, contact lenses, hearing aids etc.  We surely need to have a register of employees who have these and then determine what control measures are required e.g. loss/damage reporting and remedial action.  It could be lumped into a clause relating to "medical devices" and could include the aforementioned perhaps along with medical jewellery.  Maybe it's already included in V6.

 

A lot of this is already covered in food Simon

 

Caz x

[mavrek2010]

Attention more for  Foreign body detection and removal equipment

[swordy21]

 I'm seriously considering this

 

Caz x

 I see this, Caz, with a number of our suppliers who are moving away from BRC to either IFS or FSSC22000. We accept these as well as BRC or other GFSi benchmarked standards for raw materials and ingredients to be used in our own brand or traded goods products, however some of our UK retail customers still insist on BRC as well as their own audits, particularly where the raw material may be cooked at source and we only pack in the UK. The toughest one though is TFMS when including all the individual COP's as well as the livestock codes of practice back to origin of proteins and feeds, as well as all the RS side as well. This can take us up to 2 weeks to audit a system properly and they they may still want PIU to go as well.

[Simon]

Attention more for  Foreign body detection and removal equipment

 

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[cazyncymru]

I see further migration away from BRC-Food towards FSSC22000. 

 

 

 I'm seriously considering this

 

Caz x

[Shyguy77]

Like others have posted, i would expect unannounced audits and food fraud to be part of the update. I would also expect updates on Allergen control and labeling due to the amount of recalls you still see going on daily.



What I would like to see is more and better interpretations for the standards.

Edited by jpredmore, 20 March 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[Simao Monteiro]

Food authenticity will sure be considered.

[GMO]

It will be the flavour of the month; food authenticity and food fraud.  I'm fully expecting a section on it alone actually.  I was kind of surprised they didn't issue an addition to version 6 considering what a big issue it was.

 

I suspect that unannounced will either be compulsary or it might be that they allow the part announced scheme alternatively they might go for announced for only very small companies, e.g. 10 employees.  To be honest after having a BRC unannounced it's not that bad. 

 

I'm wondering whether more active sampling will go on, e.g. allergen, micro and authenticity samples taken during an audit?  Would be a tough approach but might be a warranted one.  I personally would have nothing to hide with that.

 

There is so much further they could go.  I was doing an audit the other day on Medical screening.  BRC was a few sentences.  One of my retailers had about 25-30 pages on the subject.

[debaduttajayaprakash]

Unannounced audit will give me a relief from struggling with other managers and higher management to maintain the repair and all on a timely manner . Not sure about allergen management as the current one is alright . We handle all kinds of allergen such as nuts, peanuts, celery, mustard , sesame , soya, milk powder and gluten . At the same time we do supply to a manufacturer who declares free from . never had any issue and testing schedules are in place to maintain this trend. 

 

Spectacles, contact lenses, hearing aid etc used by personnel , we maintain a register . Fortunately no one wears contact lenses out of 3 operators as they wear glasses and I am the only personnel who wear them and my visit to open product area is very minimum and i always check my contact lens after I am back from factory tour. 

[Charles.C]

I am the only personnel who wear them

 

 

I hope you are on the register.?

 

manufacture who declares free from

 

 

free from allergens ? Very brave.

 

Rgds / Charles.C

[Tony-C]

Based on BRC Academy Issue 7 Consultation Seminars:
Traceability
Authenticity / Fraud prevention
High Risk and High Care
Labelling and product change-overs
Traded goods
and the proposals for voluntary, unannounced auditing, grading and additional modules.

 

Regards,

 

Tony

[LPali]

For sure something about Food fraud will be included as it is becoming an increasing issues.

[mgourley]

A mentioned previously, more focus on allergen management and packaging/labeling issues.

More focus on micro testing.

Integration of several things in FSMA

 

Marshall