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[Rishin]

Please suggest a substitution for chlorine tablet in Fruit and Veg Sanitisation washing....

[jel]

You could use peroxiacetic acid

[Charles.C]

Please suggest a substitution for chlorine tablet in Fruit and Veg Sanitisation washing....

Dear Rishin,

 

see the attachment in this post - 

http://www.ifsqn.com...indpost&p=75643

 

("farm" = fruit/vegetables process)

 

Rgds   / Charles.C

 

PS - there are also many summaries in earlier threads here if you search a little.

[Harish R]

This is what we use in our company. No rinsing required after washing. A good product from ecolab

http://www.ecolab.co...atment-brochure

[Charles.C]

This is what we use in our company. No rinsing required after washing. A good product from ecolab

http://www.ecolab.co...atment-brochure

 

Dear hareesh,

 

Thks for the info.

 

Unfortunately  link is devoid of chemical information, ie What is it ?

 

it's quantitative, validated, effect on the product is IMO of equal interest as compared to the wash water ?

 

Rgds / Charles.C

 

PS - I did try one of the "informative"  links on right hand side. The opening sentence of "Water alone does not kill pathogens" prompted a quick click of the mouse. Really !

[Harish R]

Dear Charles

                    It is a peracetic acid based chemical. Here is the msds. http://birite.com/wp...4/05/850063.pdf

[Tony-C]

Dear Rishin,

 

see the attachment in this post - 

http://www.ifsqn.com...indpost&p=75643

 

("farm" = fruit/vegetables process)

 

Rgds   / Charles.C

 

PS - there are also many summaries in earlier threads here if you search a little.

 

Nice link & document Charles

 

I was going to suggest Ozone, Peroxyacetic Acid, Acetic Acid or Hydrogen Peroxide which are all included.

 

Regards,

 

Tony

[Charles.C]

Dear Charles

                    It is a peracetic acid based chemical. Here is the msds. http://birite.com/wp...4/05/850063.pdf

Dear Hareesh,

 

Thks for safety data. However no info. on effectiveness regarding processed product, eg in/out average bacterial reduction (if any).

 

I feel some sympathy for the unlucky employees who presumably have to dilute the concentrate on site. I find enough problems with the, relatively, simpler sodium hypochlorite.

 

Rgds / Charles.C

[Harish R]

There is no need to dilute. The company provides automatic dispenser. The chemical is approved by the local authority, which they give only after validation is provided. Let me try with the company for that study. 

[Tony-C]

Dear Charles

                    It is a peracetic acid based chemical. Here is the msds. http://birite.com/wp...4/05/850063.pdf

 

 

Dear Hareesh,

 

Thks for safety data. However no info. on effectiveness regarding processed product, eg in/out average bacterial reduction (if any).

 

I feel some sympathy for the unlucky employees who presumably have to dilute the concentrate on site. I find enough problems with the, relatively, simpler sodium hypochlorite.

 

Rgds / Charles.C

 

 

There is no need to dilute. The company provides automatic dispenser. The chemical is approved by the local authority, which they give only after validation is provided. Let me try with the company for that study. 

 

Maybe it is your English but there is definitely 'a need to dilute':

 

Product As Sold - Hazardous ingredients/Concentration Range
ACETIC ACID 32
Peroxyacetic acid 15
HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 11

Product AT USE DILUTION - Hazardous ingredients/Concentration Range (%)
ACETIC ACID <0.5
Peracetic acid <0.5

 

Perhaps you meant you have automated dilution?

 

Regards,

 

Tony

[Harish R]

Sorry. I meant no need for dilution by staff. The company provides an automatic dispenser which will dispense the chemical with required dilution. We just have to fill the sink designated for the purpose and immerse the fruits/vegetables. They will also provide test strips to check concentration and monthly the technician will visit for service and adjust the dispenser if required.  

[Charles.C]

Sorry. I meant no need for dilution by staff. The company provides an automatic dispenser which will dispense the chemical with required dilution. We just have to fill the sink designated for the purpose and immerse the fruits/vegetables. They will also provide test strips to check concentration and monthly the technician will visit for service and adjust the dispenser if required.  

 

I deduce you mean the dispenser is preloaded with diluted mixture then replaced with a new unit when empty (or refilled by the supplier perhaps), ie no need for user to fill the dispenser or store the concentrates. The latter steps are why many people have avoided certain potent sanitizers, one look at the warnings in SOP was enough.

 

Rgds / Charles.C

[Harish R]

Dear Charles,

                      The company makes it even easier. The chemical can be loaded into the dispenser without any dilution. It can be connected to a water source and the dispenser gives the chemical at required concentration. Monthly service and daily monitoring ensures that the concentration does not vary

Edited by Hareesh, 30 July 2014 - 03:17 AM.

[Kelly S]

^ We use the same system with our hydrobath. It automatically doses and the operators only have to monitor it hourly with minimal deviation. 

[Charles.C]

Dear Charles,

                      The company makes it even easier. The chemical can be loaded into the dispenser without any dilution. It can be connected to a water source and the dispenser gives the chemical at required concentration. Monthly service and daily monitoring ensures that the concentration does not vary

 

If i understand yr post correctly, the negative aspect is that the user has to both store and handle the concentrates. See my previous post. i agree that this is easier for the supply company.

 

Rgds / Charles.C