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#1 GMO

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:04 AM

After doing a hygiene audit this morning, I've realised our engineers know nothing about hygienic design.  There is a short section on it in Level 4 food hygiene but does anyone know of any specific UK based training courses please?


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#2 Charles.C

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:15 AM

After doing a hygiene audit this morning, I've realised our engineers know nothing about hygienic design.  There is a short section on it in Level 4 food hygiene but does anyone know of any specific UK based training courses please?

Dear GMO,

 

slightly OT,apologies.

 

A possible reason for ignorance of hygiene -

 

http://www.engineering-dictionary.org/

 

Rgds / Charles.C

 

PS - And "sanitation" :closedeyes:


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Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


#3 Mike Green

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 09:21 AM

After doing a hygiene audit this morning, I've realised our engineers know nothing about hygienic design.  There is a short section on it in Level 4 food hygiene but does anyone know of any specific UK based training courses please?

 I've never seen a 'design specific' course but there a few of these around in the UK  HACCP for Engineers which do purport to cover design-though not sure in how much detail!

 

  IMO your issue sounds like the perfect candidate for a bespoke course- but that would work out to be quite expensive!

 

Mike


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I may sound like a complete idiot...but actually there are a couple of bits missing

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 11:13 AM

Both CCFRA & Leatherhead run Hygenic Design courses

 

I think CCFRA do a bespoke Engineering hygiene course too

 

Caz x


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:45 PM

"Fun" is not the adjective I would have chosen......... :giggle:


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:32 PM

"Fun" is not the adjective I would have chosen......... :giggle:

 

Better than interesting.  :ejut:

 

 

 

As in  

 

"This landing is gonna get pretty interesting." 

"Define "interesting"."

"Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?"


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:57 PM

Better than interesting.  :ejut:

 

 

 

As in  

 

"This landing is gonna get pretty interesting." 

"Define "interesting"."

"Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?"

 

I love the word interesting.... :roflmao:   You know what they say, " A good landing is one from which you can walk away.  A great landing is one after which they can use the plane again".  :yikes:


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:41 PM

The biggest problem with engineers is that have difficulty in understanding that a septic tank and a food contact surface are different.

Also Swarf is not something the rest of us enjoy.

Hold any factory engineer upside down by the ankles and shake them long enough and a can of WD40 will fall out!

 

There is an accredited  Level 2 Food Hygiene for Engineers course available from some training companies.

off the top of my head I can't remember the awarding body.

 

As part of the Welsh Food & Drink Skills project there is a non accredited course on Food Hygiene for Engineers available, it comes with an embarrassing amount of funding (70% for SMEs)

It is at Level 2

 

rgds

Ian

 


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 09:45 AM

Both CCFRA & Leatherhead run Hygenic Design courses

 

I think CCFRA do a bespoke Engineering hygiene course too

 

Caz x

 

^^^ I can't find them?

 

The biggest problem with engineers is that have difficulty in understanding that a septic tank and a food contact surface are different.

Also Swarf is not something the rest of us enjoy.

Hold any factory engineer upside down by the ankles and shake them long enough and a can of WD40 will fall out!

 

^^^  An excellent auditor once said to one "do you have a torch?"

"No, well there's one in the tool kit there and it's on the inventory"

"Well you know, when you need a torch, you want your one, not the one in the tool kit.  You know the one that works really well."

"Well I have this one" (brings uncontrolled torch out of pocket)

I have no idea how she knew or if she saw him using it but I'm normally the most observant person in the room and I felt like a right eejit.


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#10 w.weber

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 03:31 PM

Hello,

there are also courses from

EHEDG:  http://ehedg.org/?nr=8&lang=en

Weihenstephan (south of Germany): http://www.hygienic-...?nr=176&lang=de

 

Yours


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 11:12 AM

W. weber. thanks for the link.


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