Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo
- - - - -

Do we need to inform IFS auditing body about product recalls?


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 Prunesquallor

Prunesquallor

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 0 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom

Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:58 AM

A colleague is adamant that the IFS Food standard requires that the IFS auditing company who issue our certification need to be informed within 3 days of any product recall. This is something that the BRC Standard requires. I cannot find any reference to this in the IFS standard.

Can anyone advise which clause contains this requirements or help me repudiate my colleague's assertion.

We are not in a recall situation but are rewriting our procedures

Thanks


  • 0

#2 RMAV

RMAV

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 391 posts
  • 110 thanks
36
Excellent

  • United States
    United States
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:USA - Midwest
  • Interests:QA, Micro, Sanitation;
    Meats, Juice, Condiments;
    SQF, Audit, and aviation

Posted 18 September 2014 - 12:27 PM

Your colleague could be right about the notification requirement but wrong about where that requirement is stated.  If it is not in the IFS standard (I am not familiar with that standard) check the agreement between the auditing company and the company being audited.  For example, the company we certify through states in the audit contract that we agree to notify them of in the event of a recall.


  • 0

#3 Maltus

Maltus

    Grade - AIFSQN

  • IFSQN Associate
  • 46 posts
  • 13 thanks
1
Neutral

  • Spain
    Spain
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Navarra

Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:49 PM

Actually, your college is right. You can find this information at the introduction: (it's not a requirement)
 
2.2 Extraordinary information to the certification bodyby the certified company In accordance with ISO/IEC 17065, the company shall inform its certification body about any change that may affect its ability
to conform with the certification requirements (e.g. recall, alert on products,etc.). This information shall be made within 3 working days.

  • 1

#4 Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • 12,450 posts
  • 3244 thanks
347
Excellent

  • Earth
    Earth
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 22 September 2014 - 02:52 PM

 

Actually, your college is right. You can find this information at the introduction: (it's not a requirement)
 
2.2 Extraordinary information to the certification bodyby the certified company In accordance with ISO/IEC 17065, the company shall inform its certification body about any change that may affect its ability
to conform with the certification requirements (e.g. recall, alert on products,etc.). This information shall be made within 3 working days.

 

Thanks for the input.

 

Actually It reads like a requirement :smile: ? "shall' ?

 

Rgds / Charles.C


  • 1

Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


#5 Setanta

Setanta

    Grade - PIFSQN

  • IFSQN Principal
  • 959 posts
  • 220 thanks
115
Excellent

  • United States
    United States
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Reading: historical fiction, fantasy, Sci-Fi
    Movies
    Gardening
    Birding

Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:12 PM

I agree with Charles, the word "shall" usually denotes a requirement with no leeway.


  • 0

-Setanta                 WeepingAngela.gif

 


#6 Snookie

Snookie

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 1,619 posts
  • 255 thanks
162
Excellent

  • United States
    United States
  • Gender:Female

Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:37 PM

Usually "shall" = must. 


  • 0
Posted Image
Live Long & Prosper

#7 Prunesquallor

Prunesquallor

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 0 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom

Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:40 PM

Thanks for all your replies and help.

Procedure updated - hopefully will not be needed!


  • 0

#8 Prunesquallor

Prunesquallor

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 0 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom

Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:40 PM

Thanks for all your replies and help.

Procedure updated - hopefully will not be needed!


  • 0

#9 Maltus

Maltus

    Grade - AIFSQN

  • IFSQN Associate
  • 46 posts
  • 13 thanks
1
Neutral

  • Spain
    Spain
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Navarra

Posted 22 September 2014 - 04:10 PM

It was my fault. It was so a long time I'm not writing in english, so I'm having a lot of problems today!

 

I wanted to say, that the sentence it's not included in "Part 2: List of audit requirements", since it is included on Part 1: introduction.

 

My apologies again.


  • 0

#10 Nirbhay Pampaniya

Nirbhay Pampaniya

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Associate
  • 11 posts
  • 1 thanks
2
Neutral

  • India
    India
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 December 2014 - 04:38 PM

Yes.. this one..

 

 

Actually, your college is right. You can find this information at the introduction: (it's not a requirement)
 
2.2 Extraordinary information to the certification bodyby the certified company In accordance with ISO/IEC 17065, the company shall inform its certification body about any change that may affect its ability
to conform with the certification requirements (e.g. recall, alert on products,etc.). This information shall be made within 3 working days.

 

 

Yes, You'll have to. And also to the food safety & regulatory authorities of your country.

 

in India, In case of product recall we have to inform following authorities:

 

Our certification body

Country's Regulatory Authority (Export Inspection Agency & MPEDA)

Food Safety authority of our country (FSSAI - Food Safety Standard Authority of India)

 

Glad to hear that you are not having any recall situation. :)

 

Also, you shall verify and record the effectiveness of the withdrawal programme through the use of appropriate techniques (mock withdrawal or practice withdrawal) at least once in a year.

 

Hope it helps.

 

Thanks


  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users