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#26 Setanta

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 08:46 PM

Is that legally binding? Do the trainees sign to say they agree to comply?

 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 08:52 PM

Is that legally binding? Do the trainees sign to say they agree to comply?

 

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Tony

Any time that you make a rule and say that people are required to follow it, then they can be fired if they don't.  It's insubordination to disobey rules.  They take a test that shows that they understand the training.

 

We just initiated a paper that they sign saying that they agree to abide by our hygiene and sanitation rules, but it's more to impress on them how seriously we take it.  When you post rules and train rules, workers can be fired for not following the rules.  If you have a rule that they can only eat in designated places, and they eat in other places, they can be fired, for example.

 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 09:38 PM

Tony, many times an employer will send a letter/email making an offer which states what will be paid and the starting date.  I did not for this job, it was totally an oral offer.  Something in writing that details all the terms of employment is not common except for large corporations.  Lots of small companies do not have employee manuals, and if they do, it is clearly stated in several areas that this is not an employment contract.  Companies are scared of being sued if a worker thinks that a contract has not been fulfilled.

 

Union members have written contracts at a production level, but it's not the norm here.

 

Actually, the oral agreement and terms that are set forth in the interview/job description is a binding contract of employment, but most states have laws stating that employment is at-will.  The contract can be terminated at any time by either party with no ramifications.  People can and do quit with no notice here.  People who are higher in management are usually barred from leaving at the drop of a hat and have employment contracts, but they also get benefits if the company terminates the contract.

 

I think I'm stating it all correctly, employment law in the US is complicated.

 

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About half of our states are right-to-work .   That means you can be fired , at any time, for any reason.  Companies don't like to do this because 1) they have to pay unemployment and 2) it opens them up for lawsuits, but yeah, you can totally get sacked for anything (...trust me :mwah: .  It totally screws over workers (THANKS, Taft), but it does have a clause that says you can also leave/quit whenever you want to (which is true for any state, because forced labor is illegal).  I wouldn't want to work in a place that fired people willy nilly, but I've given this speech a few times : " I need to employ people who are willing to do the tasks I assign them properly.  You have options.  You can either decide to work here and follow the rule, or you can get a job somewhere else."  I've seen employees pick "Get a job somewhere else" (and sometimes I congratulate them, then I get fired).  

 

Let's hope it doesn't come to that though!  A write up should be a fair warning for GMP breaking (we're taking it seriously, if you do it again you'll be punished more), but the OP is about religious attire.  It's easier to get the rabbi/preacher/priest on your side than it is to replace a good employee 


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