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Posted 30 November 2015 - 06:54 AM

Validation of Food Safety Control Measures

Taking place:
Friday, 04 December 2015 - 03:00 PM - 04:00 PM UK Time
This is a 10.00 AM Eastern US Start
 
Presenter:
Ruth Bell, Senior Consultant, AF Associates
 
Webinar Overview:
This webinar discusses the importance of validating food safety control measures to ensure food safety management system capability. Validation of food safety control measures is essential to ensure that a food safety management system will be capable of producing safe food and remains effective over a period of time. Validation involves examining theoretically the scientific justifications for the control measures identified and practically challenging them to determine they will be suitable and capable of consistently achieving the required level of control to ensure safe food. 

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 05:30 PM

Unedited chat logs from today's webinar:

 

 Janice: Janice Whetstone and Carrell Rains are here 
 Janice Mabey: hi
 Ajit: Hi
 raquel: hi
 Kay: Good Morning
 Yoga: hello 
 Vinita: Hi
 Esther: hello everybody from Spain
 ana maria: hello
 rajsekhar: Hello everyone 
 Vinita: Vinita here
 Allan Stirling: Allan Stirling -- Toronto or Tarrana ;)
 shyama: hi
 Carlos: hi from Portugal
 Dan: Hello from Lancaster, PA, USA
 Charlie: hi
 Manish: Hello everyone
 Kimberly: Kim
 Lee: hi from malaysia
 Laura: Good Morning
 David: good morning
 Tana: Greetings from Louisiana, U.S.A.
 Laurann: Hello
 Yadin Vargas: Good Morning Houston, Texas
 Patrick: Hello
 Vinita: From india
 Ines Martinez: Hi, hello from Uruguay!
 Niels: Good afternoon - Brussels, Belgium
 Dusica: Hello from Belgrade
 Evangelos: Hello form Athens
 Aliyu: greetings from Abuja, Nigeria
 Kim: Kimberly in Ottawa, canada
 Richard Harris: Hello From Modesto, CA USA
 David: Hello everyone.
 Dirk: Hello from Ottawa
 Ehab Nassar: Hi , from Egypt 
 Carlito: Hi, I'm Lito, Cebu Philippines
 Brandy: could someone please let me know when it starts;  I always seem to have trouble with the feed.
 Jesus Esparza: hi every one
 Alicja Nowacka: Hello from Poland :)
 Jeannie: Hello from Cailifornia
 miguel: god morgon from Kansas
 Nicole: Hello from NY
 Paulina: hi
 boedi prasetyo minarto: Hello from Malang Indonesia
 Olivier PERRIER-MAUREL: Good morning everyone. I'm from Quebec, Canada
 pamela: Hello from Paris
 Manish: Hello everyone; from Nepal
 Agnes: hello from Manila
 Jerry: Good morning everone from Independence Kentucky USA
 Teresa: Boa tarde a todos, from Oporto Portugal
 Bob Kapp: Princeton, NJ Hi all!
 maria lynn yee francisco: hi everyone, maria lynn yee francisco, philipppines
 Janice: Hello from St. Augustine, Florida
 Nives: Hello from Canada!
 houda: hello
 David Levy: SHALOM everybody from ISRAEL!!!
 Mark MALE: Hello Every One; From Mark- Uganda
 Yusufu: H, Joe from the U.S
 Vanda: Good morning from NC
 Carlito: Not so clear from Cebu
 ramesh: Hi, everybody, ramesh from Kathmandu, Nepal
 herbert: Hello from Indianapolis, IN USA
 Jane: Can't see or hear a you tube video :(
 Sripriya subramanian: Hello from New York
 Manish: Me too having a problem
 Emmanuel: Hi everyone...Birmingham  calling
 Amr: Hello from Egypt
 Ruth: Hello from Welbeck Abbey
 Batten: From Cape Town hello everybody
 Bernardo: Hello from Colombia
 Ines Martinez: Please Ruth, can yuo speak slower for nonn english speaker?
 ana maria: hello from Quebec city, canada
 Luciana: Hi from Brazil
 Chris: Hello from Asheville, North Carolina, USA
 Torjo: Hi everyone! Greetings from México
 Janice: Not too sure
 Carlito: Yes
 Richard Harris: no
 miguel: somewhat
 felicia: Morning from Vancouver :)
 Carlito: I need more explanation in the context of HACCP
 Nicole: no
 ana maria: yes
 Emmanuel: Yes
 Yusufu: yes
 Allan Stirling: Just because the poll says the majority know - why did you skip over these salient points.
 CHOI FOCK CHEONG: hi there, malaysia here, #1MDB
 Nicole: i dont know thats why Im here
 Grace Akinyemi: Yes
 Eric Blackwell: I'm I the only one having audio issues
 Bernardo: si
 Paulina: I am also havind audio issues
 Nicole: Ericx did you accxidentally pause your screen during the poll
 Ruth: Validation - will it work, verification - is it working
 Nicole: sorry my "c" key is sticking with the "X"
 Kirsten: good one, Ruth!
 Eric Blackwell: no
 thies dols: We refer to validation under FSSC 22000
 Patrick: So from the NACMCF definition noted in the presentation,does validation take precedence over verification in establishing the food safety system?
 Aliyu: succintly explained here.
 Allan Stirling: she is talking about accuracy vs reliability
 merry chastine: halo! selamat malam!
 Allan Stirling: measuring what your supposed to be measuring
 Allan Stirling: rather than measuring for compliance an inaccurately designed plan
 miguel: yes
 Aliyu: how do we conduct such studies?
 Almuiz: yes
 Nicole: my screen froze
 Brandy: I have tried multiple browsers, multiple times, clearing out all history/cache and NOTHING seems to work.
 Vanda: yearly
 Bernardo: the image on the screen is fuzzy, please improve the focus
 Carlos: yes, did not voted
 miguel: image is clear here - internet explorer - no ssues
 Bernardo: the image on the screen is fuzzy, please improve the focus
 Grace Akinyemi: yes
 miguel: you probably have issues with connectivity 
 Yusufu: Yes
 Erin: We are regulated by the USDA and they have a Directive that came out that corresponds with this. Very interesting
 leila: same for my image....
 Carlito: What do you think is the best HACCP composition of HACCP Team Members
 Erin: Carlito- a team member from all areas
 Carlito: Thanks
 sanjeev: crossfunctional team members
 pamela: @ carlito: you need to involve all departments from your plant that you judge necessary to conduct you HACCP
 Torjo: yest
 pamela: @ carlito: I mean one key member from each department (maintenance, production, R & D, quality....) depending of your organization
 thies dols: The codex have published in 2008: GUIDELINES FOR THE VALIDATION OF FOOD SAFETY CONTROL MEASURES - http://ucfoodsafety....iles/172961.pdf   Is this still a good guidance to follow?
 felicia: On Carlito question, may I add that the HACCP team member needs to be aware of HACCP program, being an active member in the process
 Adebola: Hello from Maryland, USA
 Miguel Gamboa: Hello from Las Vegas
 leila: sound?
 Ruth: Campden have just issued a new HACCP Guide line 42 - fifth edition
 boedi prasetyo minarto: of course thies
 Kirsten: How do you validate CCPs (metal detectors) that have been in place for years, are tested (verified) multiple times for days? Then how do you document it? 
 Carlito: In your experience, how do we motivate the micro cottage and small enterprises to implement HACCP then verify and validate
 Kirsten: Sorry - verified multiple times PER DAY
 Yusufu: @ Kirsten, you would need an external company to come in once a year to validate them for you. That's what we do and it satisfies the Safe Quality Food auditors.
 pamela: @ Kirsten: in Food industries, I validated my Metal detector CCP by a third part company (fr example: the metal dector siupplier or your tests strips providers..)
 Dirk: @Kirsten, I agree 3rd party come and certify calibration of md's
 pamela: @ Kirsten: i did it once/year
 Lupita: Great question Kirsten, we used pur records to validate that the metal detector was effective and the certificaton auditor told us not to use our own records
 Yusufu: @Kirsten, we use the company which supplied them to us. We monitor them daily, a supervisor verifies that the technician is following the metal detector SOP daily. They all document.
 Kirsten: Yusufu - really? Is it about running calibration checks? I can't imagine an outside company would validate?
 Carlos: @Yusufu, that is calibration, not validation I think
 Ruth: Kirsten, I was just going to say the same thing, an external maintenance contractor - usually the manufacturer of the metal detector requires to service it on a yearly basis and validate its working efficiently and accurately
 Allan Stirling: what would be normal confidence intervals for SPC studies?
 Niels: @ Kirsten: we also do this once a year and also after every major break down. (by third party)
 Yusufu: @ Riuth, you're spot on. @ Carlos, it's validation buddy. Our Engineering team calibrates the metal detectors.
 Hoa Tran: how do we validate that the equipment is free of chemical residue after cleaning ?
 Vinoth Kumar: Wats d diff between calibration n validation?
 Nuraini: Hello, from Malaysia. I'd like to know how do one validate uv light used to disinfect drinking water? Plant is new and is planning on implementing HACCP
 SuperBakery: most metal detectors are self calibrating, test strips can validate that calibration.  We check no less than 3 xs per shift.  The size of test strips must fit in you specs in your HACCP program
 Ruth: You are validatin that it is working accurately by calibrating it
 Carlos: I believe that Kirsteen how to demonstrate the MD is the effective control measure in her operation. 
 Dirk: @Hoa Tran, there are test kits such as chlorine strips to test for residue
 felicia: @nuraini,the UV light manufacturer have information on effectiveness of the use of UV to kill certain microbial
 william: Kirsten-we calibrate every 2 hours, verified twice daily by QA, and the manufacturer of equipment Services (validates working correctly) annually.  It works for SQF.
 Carlos: Validation = science  Verification = checking  Calibration = accuracy
 Ruth: Calibration is done by external companies, you are verifying that it is working on  the hourly basis
 sonia rosales: you can validate the allergens with some microbiological samples or you can do swaps that will give you the validation
 Nuraini: @felicia: so the plant can actually use the manufacturer spec manual as validation reference? Do they need to carry out full scale validation or can they do so say in the next 4 or 5 years? thank you for your reply
 Zaira: how do you validate a pest control program?
 william: Correct Ruth.  The manual describes it as calibrating.
 Hoa Tran: I like chlorine strip because chemical is not protein.
 Patrick: When it comes to CCP equipment e.g metal detectors or sterilizers, do we perfrom validation or qualification tests?
 Adam: @zaira you need to have traps and trend the number of captures
 Adam: @patrick we valid with test strips being scanned every two hours
 Yusufu: I think we should have a discussion on the forum about verification and validation in the Food Industry. Let me concentrate on the webinar for now. 
 Ruth: Valiodation metal detectors needs to be done on a product specific basis as different product size and weights will require different test pieces too - it is best to get an expert to give the advice - usually from the manufacturer of the metal detector
 Dirk: @Hoa Tran, you could also invest in ATP tests
 Zaira: @adam wouldnt the scheduled monitoring and trends would be verification?
 Hoa Tran: ATP  only detects protein, not chemical.
 sonia rosales: Remember that for allergens ATP's are not accurately because just will check if is clean., 
 felicia: @nuraini, youcan definitely reference on supplier experimental studies. You can further validate your process as needed
 Nuraini: @felicia: great! thank you!
 Wayne: There are several very good allergen tests on the market and you need to determine how precise you want to be
 Christina Terrell: We're currently working on validating our prerequisite programs and are relying on industry best practices for technical documentation.  Do you have any suggestions on validating PRPs?  For instance, site security as a justification for a bioterrorism hazard?
 Wayne: ATP is a verification, while microtesting is validation
 felicia: Microtesting is verification but analysis of the microtesting can be validation
 Wayne: That is true Felicia, depends on how you use the system
 Gayan: Sorry I joined the webinar bit late. Was Codex guide on validation of food safety measures (CAC/GL 69-2008 already discussed? 
 Shahid Lateef: yes
 luis velasquez: ok
 Gayan: Thanks Shahid
 Nicole: Are we on the documenting Validation screen slide?
 Ebenezer: tes
 Ebenezer: yes
 Almuiz: yes
 Edsangela: Great presentation!
 Vinoth Kumar: Yes
 ramesh: yes
 Amr: Are calibration for metal detector considered as validation?
 Ajit: Great presentation.
 lamia wakim: yes
 pamela: Thank you Ruth! Great presentation :)
 Sripriya subramanian: Thanks! Great presentation!
 Nicole: Very helpful presentation Thank you
 Ines Martinez: Is it possible to go through a hole exaple of a complete validation??
 Charlie: Thank you Ruth and Simon. A webinar virgin; I'm impressed. An hour very well spent.
 ramesh: Good presentation
 Esther: Could you share with us which statitical sofware are you using or which on you recommend? Thanks Ruth
 Nuraini: Thanks Ruth, very enlightening presentation!
 Manish: Thanks for the nice presentation
 Richard Harris: Validation of metal detectors?
 Aliyu: very briliant presentation
 Ines Martinez: Thank you Ruth!
 Mark: Thanks. Good distinctions.
 Zaira: how do ou validate something that cannot be easily validated through science such as pest control program or security program?
 Patrick: In pharmaceautical field, the production environment  of validated processes/equipment  is controlled, and so revalidation is conducted whenever there are frequent failures, or major failures or a change log  analysis or reviews, have you come accross this approach?
 ramesh: Thanks Ruth
 Allan Stirling: How has FSMA changed the responsibilities of operators/manufacturers with respect to verification/validation activities?
 Torjo: Thanks Ruth
 Ebenezer: Many thanks Ruth excellent presentation
 David Levy: Simon, you should try WAZE for navigating
 boedi prasetyo minarto: Good & clear presentation Ruth
 Zaira: WAZE is awsome
 Olubunmi: Highly useful presentation
 Yusufu: Thank you Ruth for the presentation.
 Almuiz: Can the validation done as like an audit questions and answers and documented? Thanks.
 Yusufu: Folks, we should have a discussion about verification of Pre-requisite programs (PRP's) on the forum.
 premnath: thank you 
 Ehab Nassar: For metal detector can we consider the supplier's certificate and calibration certificate as one of the validation documents
 Roderick: @ Esther - Statistical program I use is QI Macros for Excel.  There are other expensive software programs. But QI Macros fits my budget.
 rajsekhar: whys hsould pest control be validated...as its considered as pre requisite 
 Yusufu: @ Ehab Nassar, spot on. Very true.
 Kirsten: @Yusufu - Yes!
 rajsekhar: of course it should be checked for the quality of work they deliver 
 Yusufu: @ Kirsten, please initiate the question on the forum.
 leila: trend analysis& expert on pest control surveys - as BRC aske in V6, 
 Gurpreet: As mentioned for validation of MD, initial challenge test data and  verification data can be used. If  consider the initial installation data for validation, do it require to validate annually, I mean repeat the procedure or verification data will be enough to support?
 Esther: Thank youso much Roderick!
 leila: for MD: go to maintenance fllor, and ick up samples, test THOSE ones by the MD/25 times, so to catch repetibility
 Yusufu: @ Gurpreet, i think yes. We are SQF certified and it's required during the annual audit.
 Gayan: In new FDA FSMA final rules for Prevntive Control FDA says no need to validate recall program and supplier control program. Your thaughts on that please?
 pamela: @ Gurpreet: Yes because your equipment may deviate in the time ; that's why you need to calibrate and validate it by a third part company
 leila: the MD supplier CALIBRATES the devise
 Richard Harris: Validate HTST Pasteurization controlled by State of CA?
 Ebenezer: What about labelling?
 João: Is final product analisys an verification of the flowchart?
 rajsekhar: Is theer any future plan to consider validation as a new principle in haccp?
 houda: yes
 Kirsten: I think labeling validation program is mostly about validating your process for creating and approving
 Steve: Our CCP is our labeling due to our product. Tree Nuts.  We validate through 5 independent signatures to review and verify
 Kirsten: verification would be that the right labels are being applied
 Theophilus Fon : There is a tool on the CFIA site to validate labels see link bellow
 thies dols: Allergen labelling - mix up hazard - what happens with labels not used - how sure are you the computer prints the correct label?
 Roderick: Labeling should be considered for allergens ... is the label applied to the right product
 Ebenezer: thanks
 Patrick: In pharmaceautical field, the production environment of validated processes/equipment is controlled, and so revalidation is conducted whenever there are frequent failures, or major failures orvia  a change log analysis or reviews for annual reassessments, have you come accross this approach?
 Esther: Simon, could you please get back to my question please??
 Frank Sedzielarz: About recalls, the FDA considers this as a corrective action. The regulation may cite this as a "should". However, if the firm does not have a corrective plan in place they would be required to follow a plan outline in the subject regulation.
 Emmanuel: Thanks Ruth
 Niels: Thank you
 Aura: Thank you very much for a great presentation. :)
 Kirsten: thanks Ruth, Simon and all participants for your comments!
 Aliyu: thank you very much simon and Ruth
 David Levy: Thanks!
 william: Thank you Ruth and Simon
 rajsekhar: Thanks Ruth
 Emmanuel: ...and Thanks Simon
 Alicja Nowacka: Thank you :)
 Miguel Gamboa: Thank you all
 Rodrigo: Thank you very much, this has been a very good presentation and explanation of key poins in terms of verification / validation. Thank you again.
 Ines Martinez: Thank you both of us!!!
 Carlito: Thank you so much.
 Janice: Thank you for this information.
 Andrew Capps: Happy Holidays to you as well! Thanks Ruth
 felicia: Thanks Ruth and Simon
 Carlos: Thank You Ruth and Simon...
 Gurpreet: Thank you Ruth and Simon
 Martin: Thanks Ruth
 Carlos: Happy Season to all of us
 Hasan: how i would get previous recordings??

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