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Posted 30 January 2016 - 10:17 AM

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Well I have spoken with the MD regarding this set up he wants with separating technical and quality and I can see abit where he wants to go with this, but I still have an issue. He still insists that label checks and now metal detection and calibration of scales is now also a technical funtion. I told him again I disagree but he would not buy this. How to I get over the point that this is a qa job?

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 10:29 AM

Aps sounds like you've reached the roll with it or jump ship decision.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 01:05 PM

Hi all

Well I have spoken with the MD regarding this set up he wants with separating technical and quality and I can see abit where he wants to go with this, but I still have an issue. He still insists that label checks and now metal detection and calibration of scales is now also a technical funtion. I told him again I disagree but he would not buy this. How to I get over the point that this is a qa job?

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Aps sounds like you've reached the roll with it or jump ship decision.

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I agree with Simon. One can definitely make the argument that calibration falls under the Technical Manager; especially if you are responsible for laboratory equipment. You're better off maintaining more roles at this point, in all honesty. It doesn't work to your favor if the new QA Manager ends up with more responsibilities than you. Give it 6 months at least, and then if things aren't working out, perhaps you can re-evaluate the situation. For now, it sounds like you've done all you can do, and continuing to push the issue may cause unintended friction.

 

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 09:16 PM

OK people this role has started ref the QA MAnager.

 

She has totally isolated this split completely by creating a Quality Assurance and Environmental management system in which she has started creating documents which we already have in the QMS system in which I have produced and maintained.

 

She has isolated herself and her team from technical. She also reckons she is going to audit the systems and procedures and systems to ensure we are meeting practices.... the thing is the director is backing this (on holiday at the momenrt) so I can not speak to him as yet as this happened when i was on holiday...

 

This is a nightmare and with 3 days of this so far this is not going to work except only damage the business.

 

What are your thoughts....


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 01:50 PM

OK people this role has started ref the QA MAnager.

 

She has totally isolated this split completely by creating a Quality Assurance and Environmental management system in which she has started creating documents which we already have in the QMS system in which I have produced and maintained.

 

She has isolated herself and her team from technical. She also reckons she is going to audit the systems and procedures and systems to ensure we are meeting practices.... the thing is the director is backing this (on holiday at the momenrt) so I can not speak to him as yet as this happened when i was on holiday...

 

This is a nightmare and with 3 days of this so far this is not going to work except only damage the business.

 

What are your thoughts....

 

Hi aps,

 

Oh boy, that is indeed a nightmare, and not exactly the easiest problem to fix, now that you guys already made a decision.

 

Perhaps you are due another discussion with the director when back from vacation. I hate to tell you to go to HR or directly above because that most assuredly will create tension between yourself, the director, and the QA Manager.

 

The best you can do is have a meeting and submit ideas for QA and Technical functions and explain the difficulties you are having. Also, you can bring in the procedures and documents you already have as proof, and make sure that everyone knows you are willing to share those documents and as such should not need separate ones.

 

It seems so hard to get everyone to see how much we try to compromise (I'm having one of those days too), but the best you can do is keep trying. I think they have motives because they waited for you to go on vacation to make these interesting changes (I could be wrong). If it seems like you aren't getting anywhere, you should definitely start weighing other options aka "jump ship" as Simon stated earlier.

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:24 PM

Hi This has not turned out very well.

 

The role the QA manager has is not what was discussed. Her team are glorified cleaners with a title or Quality Assurance.????

 

However she has started to take over the washing of all PPE, changing the colour of PPE and also meddling in with the QMS as she done a new Organisation chart of the site in which the QMS has already got this but she wanted it under her new management system "Quality Assurance and Environmental Management Systems" I mean what the hell is this. I have spoke to the director to tell him to tell her to keep out of the QMS as she reports to him and he asked me how is it going. All I said was she needs to reel her neck in or we could be in trouble on audit as she is changing things and not running it passed me. She is a law onto her self and swanning around like she owns the place and he is letting her

 

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