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#1 Patrico

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:08 AM

Hello everyone,

I hope someone can help!

I have a small problem. I must do internal audit in my new company.
I would like to ask for a checklist for BRC v.7

Does anyone have and provide me with a checklist ?


Thanks!


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:56 AM

The best checklist is the standard itself.

Put it into excel and do a bit of organising to add the columns and information you need.

 

Then risk assess the requirements and determine the frequency you will audit each section / clauses.

And put it into a schedule.

 

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:59 AM

Hi Patrico

 

I suggest you use the self assessment tool from BRC as the basis of Simon's suggestion.

http://www.brcglobal...px#.VsWHEvmLQdU

It's at the bottom of the page


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:15 AM

Bingo!  Nice one Brummy Jim.   :clap:

 

Use that for internal audits and you will always be preparing and checking compliance against the standard...then you will be prepared when you come to the 3rd party certification audit.  It will also help you to understand the standard more deeply also.

 

Items relating to factory standards and personal hygiene you would want to do monthly.

 

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:27 AM

There are also some BRC checklists on the forum where a risk-based partition over the year is illustrated. Somewhere. :smile:


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:57 PM

Hello everyone,

I hope someone can help!

I have a small problem. I must do internal audit in my new company.
I would like to ask for a checklist for BRC v.7

Does anyone have and provide me with a checklist ?


Thanks!

 

Hi Patrico,

 

:welcome:

 

Whilst the BRC self-assessment tool will help, internal audits should cover your food safety & quality management system, not just the requirements of the BRC standard.

 

Kind regards,

 

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 11:02 AM

Hi!

Simon, BrummyJim, Tony, Charles  - Thank you very much! :)

 

Charles... Where I can find BRC checklists on the forum? I I was looking at forum but I I did not find checklists about which you speak.
Maybe You can send me your checklists? :)

 

Best Regards,
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Posted 23 February 2016 - 08:10 PM

Hi!

Simon, BrummyJim, Tony, Charles  - Thank you very much! :)

 

Charles... Where I can find BRC checklists on the forum? I I was looking at forum but I I did not find checklists about which you speak.
Maybe You can send me your checklists? :)

 

Best Regards,
Patrico

 

 

Hi Patrico,

 

Can try the attachments in these posts (kudos to  Trubertq and Tony-C  :thumbup: ) -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...indpost&p=95362

(BRC7)

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...indpost&p=67864

(BRC6)


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 11:20 AM

Hi Patrico,

 

I hope the links were useful ?


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Posted 08 March 2016 - 09:50 AM

Hi Charles. C

Of course the links were helpful, but I am still looking checklists for internal audit.
Could you show me your checklist?

I can't create checklist :(

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 09:59 AM

Patrico, here is the direct link to the Self Assessment Tool that Brummy Jim mentioned in his post.

 

Hope it helps.

 

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Posted 08 March 2016 - 12:35 PM

Just a note of warning as per my previous post your internal audit schedule should cover your food safety & quality management system and you should not just use the self assessment tool. From BRC:

 

How to use the BRC Global Standards Self-Assessment tool
This tool is designed to help you assess your operation against the requirements of the Standard and help prepare you for your certification audit.
The checklist covers each of the requirements of the Standard and may be used to check your site’s compliance with each of these requirements.  The checklist also allows you to add comments or identify areas of improvement in the empty boxes provided at the end of each section.
While we hope that this tool is useful in helping you prepare for your audit it should not be considered as evidence of an internal audit and will not be accepted by auditors during an audit.


 


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Posted 09 March 2016 - 10:58 AM

Thanks for the message.
So, how can you create a good checklists that will be accepted ?

My company have BRC and IFS 6 , but I'm new to the company and I don't have previous checklists .
I would like to make good checklist but really I don't know how!

HELP ME!


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Posted 09 March 2016 - 11:55 AM

If you have BRC and IFS what was used for previous internal audits?

 

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 12:11 PM

Hi Tony-C

 

I have a report from the certification audit , and only that.
Earlier internal audits and checklists have a person who worked in my company .

Unfortunately I have no contact with him

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 12:31 PM

Hi Patrico,

 

We usually perform internal audits to our clients, and we use requirements from BRC included in an Excel sheet, with columns for evidences and desviations.. Actually, that's a similar approach to what the CB will use.

 

By the way, we have had some troubles performing  internal audits anual plan. We perfomed internal audis against BRC v. 6 during 2 consecutive days, but you can do that with the new version. You should audit differents parts of the standard along the year.


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Posted 09 March 2016 - 12:44 PM

Hi Tony-C

 

I have a report from the certification audit , and only that.
Earlier internal audits and checklists have a person who worked in my company .

Unfortunately I have no contact with him

Best Regards,
Patrico

 

Hi Patrico,

 

My advice would be to take your procedures and convert into a checklist, here is an example:

 

Attached File  PRP Audit Record 8.1 Equipment Prerequisites Example.jpg   217.24KB   1 downloads

 

Kind regards,

 

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 01:07 PM

Tony-C...

Thank you very much :)
 

I found the file. Do you think it is ok do internal audit ?

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 02:06 PM

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 02:26 PM

Tony-C...

Thank you very much :)
 

I found the file. Do you think it is ok do internal audit ?

 

This is the same as the BRC self assessment template and only covers the first section of the standard.

 

You have seen the example I have posted which can be developed from your procedures, you will also need to check current versions of documents are available and relevant records are being completed correctly and personnel carrying out the tasks are trained.

 

From BRC Guidance:

The most common way of completing an internal audit is by taking documented procedures and work instructions and comparing them with actual working practices and records.

 

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 03:16 PM

Hi Patrico,

 

I deduce that all records of previous, seemingly successful, audits by BRC/IFS are essentially non-existent. Hard to believe but obviously not impossible.

 

i would advise you to asap contact the relevant auditors and request copies of exchanges of information between yr Company and themselves. One specific reason is that subsequent auditors will highly likely utilise such information on future visits.

 

I also deduce you are unfamiliar with the requirements attached to performing internal audits. I sympathise since i initially found myself in the same position. I laboriously studied published examples of similar activities performed for ISO 9001 and used those principles to construct/modify a list similar to the self-assessment tool already referenced in this thread. You can be assured that there is nothing particularly revolutionary in the basic BRC auditorial approach even though they sometimes exhibit considerable talent in suggesting otherwise. :smile:

 

In retrospect, it would have been far, far easier, finances permitting, to get a little professional help.

 

Ideally, an internal audit is an evolutionary document which is another way of saying it should be risk-based (and therefore, at least partially, specific to yr own process).


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Posted 10 March 2016 - 09:06 AM

I can see that I have a big problem :(

I can make a checklist where they will be my questions to the BRC standard ?

E.g:
Clause 1.1
Does the company have the current quality policy ?

Do I have to create questions to a specific production department ?

 

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 09:06 AM

Of course Clause 1.1.1 not 1.1 :)


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Posted 10 March 2016 - 01:54 PM

Hi Patrico,

 

The document attached may help you to understand BRC’s interpretation of  "Internal Audit".

 

Attached File  Introduction to Internal Audits.pdf   4.13MB   118 downloads

 

The additional chunks to yr own previous attachment example (Post 18) are here -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...indpost&p=87184

 

The BRC Interpretation Guidelines may be helpful (not personally seen). Plus  training assistance, especially if you are the entire Internal Audit Team. :smile:

 

You may also find these 2 links of some interest regarding audit frequency and scope/layout  -

 

http://processing.un...agement-system/

https://brcglobalcer...udit-checklist/

 

PS - here is another thread which may be useful -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...lanned-for-brc/

 

PPS - I'm not sure how generally applicable the comments are (1st audit ??)  but this post may also give some "food for thought". Unfortunately the Process is unstated.

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...dit/#entry95980


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 11:25 AM

Ohhhh Charles! Thank you very very much!!! :)

But, I have a one maybe two, three, four.... one thousand questions :D

For example I chosen Chemical and physical contamination.
How can I ask questions?

 

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