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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:57 PM

Want to Validate Your Metal Detector, Now What

 

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Friday, February 24, 2017 - 03:00 PM - 04:00 PM UK Time

This is a 10.00 AM Eastern US Start
 
Presenter:

Robert Rogers, Senior Advisor for Food Safety & Regulation, Mettler Toledo

 
Webinar Overview:

Validation is a requirement for any food safety program yet guidance as to how to validate is difficult to find particularly when it comes to validating metal detection systems. We will discuss different validation methods including  validating detection capability and validating system reject operation with this informative presentation. 
 
 
 

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:21 PM

Lot's of chat and questions at today's webinar.
 
Jean-Yves : Good morning from Los Angeles
Chi Samuel : hello everyone from Cameroon 
Tanya : Good Morning from Iowa
Jennifer : Good morning from Idaho 
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : hello from Porto, Portugal
Michael : Hello from Manchester
Emmanuel : Hello all from Nigeria.
Patricia : Patricia, hello everyone 
Kairit Luhakooder : Hello from Estonia
Jo : Good Afternoon from the UK
Edwin Bohm : good afternoon
julie : Hello from Norfolk, England
ossama Ismail : Hi , Good After-Noon 
Tara : Hello from the UK
super-tresmarias : nice evening from the Philippines
Mack : Hello from Maryland
CHARIF : Good Morning this is charif from New jersey USA
Ismael : Hello everyone
Sayid : Good afternoon from Dubsi
JUAN : Hello from California
Louise : Hello from Pennsylvannia
Natalie : Hello everyone!!
Natalia Tsumanets : Good evening from Russia. 
Birgit Beaufort-Glas : Good Afternoon from the Netherlands
SILVIA : Hi
Miguel Gamboa : Hello everyone from Las Vegas
Patrick : Hello fro Minneapolis
ossama Ismail : Ossama Ismail , Cairo , Egypt
Kim : Good Morning all
Tami : Hi good morning
Chillida : Good afternoon from Spain (Barcelona)
Nena : Good Morning from NB Canada.
Deborah Chan : Good Evening from Singapore
Wynn : Greetings from Texas.
andreas : Hi From Texas
John : ello from Canada
Donna Bromfield : Hello from the ATL
Nicola : Good Afternoon from London
Michelle : Good morning from Missouri, USA!
Riccardo : ciao from Italy
Nutthanich : Hi 
Daniel Frank : Richmond, Virginia calling!
Ewa : Hello
Aparna : Hello from Toronto, Canada
Fayaj : Hello all from India 
Laura Ramírez : Good morning from México!!
Azizan : hi, good afternoon/evening. I'm from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Christian Thomas : Good Morning from Cincinnati!!!!
Saritha Gourishetti : Hi
Mark : Good Morning from the San Joaquin Valley
Claudia : Hello from Colombia
Diana Silva : Hello from Portugal
Kimberly Allison : Hi from South Carolina!
kathleen : hi from arcata, california
Gregory Adams : Hello from Manville, NJ
Martha : Greetings from the beautiful Eastern Shore of Maryland, the Free State!
Eduardo : Good Morning to all 
Nutthanich : hi hi hi 
Michelle : good morning from Minnesota
Sarah : is there a way to call in for audio? I cannot hear very well
Charlotte : good morning
Richard Bertrand : Good Morning Hello from Louisiana
Emmanuel : Emmanuel from Birmingham, hi l
Christine : Christine Boudreau, Hi every one
Simone : Good Evening from Germany
Danitza : Good morning from Canada
Jacinthe : Good morning from Québec
Sheena : Hi all, from UK
Rashmi : Hello from DC
Daniela : Hi from Ireland
Yehia : Hi everybody
sandra : Hello from Jamaica
irfanudeen : hi to everyone
Sanjeev : Good Morning. Sanjeev here.
Dana B : Good Morning from New Brunswick, Canada!
Simon Timperley : Welcome food safety friends.
Nena : Good Morning from NB Canada.
lahcen : good morning from montreal
Filippo : Ciao from Italy:
Worapun Y. : Hi From Thailand
super-tresmarias : thank you Simon
Mary Pat : Good Morning from Snowy Seattle!!
Anes : Good day all..Anes Ellikkuth from Del Monte Saudi Arabia Co. Ltd.
Krishnan : Hi. Krishnan  from Goa India. Good  evening  to all
LaDonia Harris : Good morning from Pennsylvania 
Sarah : can I call in for audio? It is very choppy.
Simon Timperley : No Sarah, there is no dial in.
Sanjeev : Sanjeev from India
Dana B : Hey Nena, where in NB are you?
nena wilks : Dana B - are you talking to me?
Martha : So you are using Validation as the same as Qualification?  Or is this to validate the performance of the metal detector?  Or a combination of both?
ana maria : good mornng from Quebec City, Canada
Nena : I'm outside on Moncton, you?
Michele Pietersen : Hello from South Africa
Cheryl : Hi Everyone from PEI,  Canada
Dana B : I'm in St. Stephen
sundus : HI
manoj pathak : very nice 
Letizia : Hello, from Milan, Italy
manoj pathak : manoj pathak
Daniela : Hi, is the presentation working for you?
Emmanuel : I cant hear the presenter again.
Vickie : Good Morning from Mississippi
Pauly : Hello from BC Canada
enrique : Good morning from Chicago
Ahmed Hussein : I'm AH from Egypt
Filippo : Ciao from Italy!
Emelia : Hi from Namibia
ossama Ismail : Idea/Glimpse of Profile Advantage Metal Detector 
Aurora : Good morning from Mexico
Diana Silva : Hello from Portugal!
Phan Thi Binh Chau : I am Vietnamese
Daniela : hi, it's not opening for me? it worked 2 weeks ago?
Christian Thomas : Ciao Filippo!
ANTONELLA MARANO : Ciao from Italy;)
ramzy  howait : hi welcome you from worm egypt
Donna Bromfield : The acronym HARPC is not recognized or endorsed by the FSPCA. It's Preventive Controls for Human/Animal  Food
nena wilks : Good morning from sunny Texas!
Nildag : Hello from Turkey
Jane : Hi from Nigeria
Tanya : Snow Blizzard here in Iowa :)
francois : Hello from France
Emily : Hello from Alabama 
Bridier : Hello from France
Sarah : Good Morning from Canada
Mohamed Hassan Abdel Hady : Hello from Egypt
Torjo : Greetings from Guadalajara, Jalisco
Daniela : is it working for anyone?
Lígia Lobo : Greetings from Portugal
Cheryl : Working fine for me Daniela
Paul : Good morning from East Lansing MI. Sorry I am late. My computer was being stubborn this morning.
Tabibur : Hello from Bangladesh.
Maurice : hello..can you connect me?
Simon Timperley : If Youtube is blocked in your business/region you cannot watch
tahani : hello from sudan
Charissa : Good morning from Guyana
Jim : Hello from Atlanta
Marianela : Hello from Uruguay
nutthanich : Hi. 🙇
ossama Ismail : Validation Stages : 1.Design Qualification 2.Installation Qualification 3.Operational Qualification 4.Performance Qualification.Which one we are discussing today ? Thanks
Aline : Hi, from Florianópolis - Brazil
Dana B : We have a metal detector that does not recognize the test probes directly on the belt, but when put through with a box product, they are recognized - why is this?
Rashmi : Hi Dana , it sometimes  depends at what height the sensitivity is most. you can play with phase and senitity to set it up.
Worapun Y. : 304 or 316 SUS, Which one is easier to detect ? 
Kouyate : Hello from Canada (Québec). Massa
Lígia Lobo : Hi Dana, you can set phase and sensivity to othes values
Dana B : We cannot change the phase on that detector, just the sensitivity.
Eduardo : how often the software in the metal detector must be updated 
Patricia : the audio is lost, the presentation is frozen
Farzad : If one product reject by metal detector in first run but not reject for second and third run, what should we do?
Martha : Freezing of the presentation is probably your internet connection
Worapun Y. : @Patricia: Press Reconnect 
Farida Hosein : i keep losing the sound
Kimberly Allison : at the bottom of the screen
Hin Wai : is a 4mm test piece for metal detector normally used to verify the metal detector?
Sheena : It is also worth looking at whether heavy or over weight products are still pushed or blown off the belt if metal is detected. 
Martha : What sort of rejection mechanics are usually used for 44 pound bags of dry product, where it's hard to push and requires a large bin?
Rashmi : Hin Wai  we use min 1.5 mm
BK : visual and audio lost
SILVIA : If the units are 50kg sacs so I need a big arc metal detector for the units going through. Is thre any way to reduce the sensitivty sinec the current metal detector is 3.0Fe/3.5SS/4.0nonFe 
SILVIA : If the units are 50kg sacs so I need a big arc metal detector for the units going through. Is thre any way to reduce the sensitivty sinec the current metal detector is 3.0Fe/3.5SS/4.0nonFe
Margaret : Are the on demand webinars free of charge to food manufacturers? 
Sarah : Could you show the HACCP vs HARPC slide again?
manoj pathak : manoj pathak hello from india
John : What are your thoughts on metal detectable belts. Value for the money.
SILVIA : Is accepted by BRC to validate metal detector by their own users?
Eileen : We recently have a piece of copper from an electrical wire that our Metal Detector failed to detect when it used to detect even a dot size piece of metal, why is that?
Martha : @Sarah, usually the webinars will be available later online
Christalynn : I am still not getting a follow up e-mail after a webinair. I e-mailed the e-mail address you gave me to get this fixed. I have not heard back. My e-mail is wolpert.christalynn@malcolm.sysco.com if you can help please. 
jennifer : i understand how to validate existing equipment to confirm its capability - but what about validating that your equipment is aligned to industry best practice ?
Monica Buendia : HOW DO YOU VALIDATE AN INLINE METAL DETECTOR
ramzy  howait : thanks more Robert!!!!sSimon too!!!!!!
Ricardo : When buying a metal detection how do you choose the type of regection
Sarah : Thank, @Martha
Fayaj : Nice presentation thanks 
morad : is ther any referance to validate my metal detector 
SILVIA : currently I am validating my metal deetctor by passing 25 times each sample test piece. Are the numbers of time right?
Barbara : How can I calculate to determine confidence level of 30 passes to know if 30 is a sufficient sample size?
Eva Camacho : what is the difference between validation and optimisation??
Vickie : Thanks for the information!!
Mohamed Hassan Abdel Hady : what shall i do when metal detector rejects also when belt is empty?
Aurora : Silvia that is correct but also you have to calibrate that is different
Martha : Do MT detectors come with a design qualificaiton already performed?
Chi Samuel : in an automated process no human how to deal with unexpected package in another sense how to trace it and remove from the batch 
Kevin : Would it be acceptable to validate a range of product that have similar physical characteristics versus validating every single product? What physical features would you recommend being compared to form the groups 
Rajneesh Pathak : Rajneesh pathak 
Pamela : Can you please discuss a Metal Detector’s calibration as it may relate to  periodic Validation?
Iryna Dyachenko : Hello. What is the frequency of the metal detector calibration by an external party or as long as test specimens are detected it is not required?
Mark : Can you use the same principles for an x-ray detector
Casilda : Thanks Robert, I'm doing my CCP validation in the coming weeks and this information will help greatly
ramzy  howait : are there apps for detection of metal in liquid pack as milk .juices?
Jacinthe : Can you show slide # 13? thank's
Emmanuel : Whats the freequency of calibration?
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : ? Is there a limit to the amount of samples you can pass,at the same time,through ametal detector? I assume yes.
Margaret : Do you have similar webinars for engineers working on MT metal detectors?
Eduardo : I am interested in the same question as Pamela 
Kevin : How is the metal detection threshold determined
ramzy  howait : I asked about detection liqid packages?
Margaret : What metal should be used for non ferrous samples? 
Chi Samuel : Thank you so much  Mr Robert Fantastic presentation 
Nena : @Maria youshould only pass one item at a time to prevent confussion on what was rejected as well it may give you a false reading.
Karm Elwany : Hi what shall i do if there is abooplem with any cqrd di i can not verifym 
Margaret : How frequent should the metal detectors be calibrated by external companies? 
Eva Camacho : is validation the same than optimisation of metal detectors?
Karm Elwany : Do we need calibration. Certificates annually for cards
Christalynn : should metal detectors be calibrated annually by a third-party as part of validation? i have had GFSI auditors tell me this is something we should have done. We do daily in-house calibrations. 
Sang : How important is it that the detection needs to be on a dedicated circuit?
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : @«Hi Nena,yes, we should do it, but lets assume its a line passing of bags with breads and sometimes you get more passing, its not so simple to separate
super-tresmarias : is there a specific distance necessary for 2 detectors to be placed away from each other?
Maribel : how often do we need to validate the metal detector before an external service?, It should be with the same conditions to the external service? 
Saritha Gourishetti : We have a metal detector which detect the ,limits very well and funtional except the screen which is frozen. But all the monitoring chekcs are perfect. Is it safe to use that MD in our facility?
Jema : Hi
super-tresmarias : Is there a specific distance necessary for 2 detectors to be placed away from each other in the same area? Some say when they're placed too close to each other, they do not function well. 
Edwin Bohm : for foodsafety, which sizes of metal is recommended??
Karm Elwany : How metal detector validated after maintenance
Nena : @Maria Maybe have someone there to sort and organize the bags so only one at a time will pass. If the space is there to allow a employee to stand close by. 
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : @Hi Nena,thanks, willthink about it and try and adapt it !
Sayid : For validation we need to make separate metal samples or we can use the test pieces itself? What will be the best choice
Margaret : Great pictures in the background!
Monica Buendia : IS THERE A WAY TO USE A METAL DETECTOR ON PORTION PAK UNITS USING FILM WHICH TYPICALY IS DETECTED BY THE DETECTOR
Karm Elwany : Thanks saiy
Rashmi : Hello
Rashmi : what should be the frequency of validation and calibration of the metal detector?
Rashmi : what should be the frequency of validation and calibration of the metal detector
Maribel : Do you know any detector who can work with products with metal-plastic package?
Tami : Robert thank you very much this has been extremely helpful.  
Sheena : Maribel, you can get ferrous only detectors for such applications 
TORAL : I had experienced yesterday , Metal detector rejected some bars on 25-30 minutes time interval during whole day production ,. I checked each bar individually to pass from metal detector but it is not rejected so what's the reason
Natalia Tsumanets : How can be organized metal detection for the product, packed into metallized packs
Maribel : Thank you so much Sheena!
Natalia Tsumanets : How can be organized metal detection for the product, packed into metallized packs
julie : Is there benefit in testing reject mechanisms with overlarge test piees?
Karm Elwany : Thanks vladimar for helpeful information
jennifer : UK retailers expect that your detectors keep up with latest technology
Rajneesh Pathak : Thanks for knowledge regarding metal detector 
jennifer : another example would be multifrequency units that have better sensitivity on metlallised film
Worapun Y. : Thanks for your information
Tammy Fulton : Are there any metal detectors that work in a corrugated manufacturing plant?
Martha : Thank you for a very informative presentation!
Maribel : How often do we need to validate the metal detector before an external service?, It should be with the same conditions to the external service?
Martha : Are all those passes required to be different samples, or can you pass the same one over and over?
ossama Ismail : Million Thanks for This Great Presentation & Detailing. Very Impressive
Vickie : Sounds Great
Margaret : thank you 
TORAL : How do I get certificate
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : Thanks!4
Natalia Tsumanets : Thank you 
SILVIA : big thanks to both
julie : Thanks for a great webinar
Charlotte : very good webinar. thanks
Simone : Thanks
John : Thank you!
Kim : Thank you and have a wonderful weekend!
andreas : Thanks great
Chet : Thanks guys. Relly good presentation and informative.
Nena : Thank you!
Michelle : Thank you!  Great presentation!
Tara : Many thanks to both of you, it was very informative.
Teresa : Thank you, have a nice weekend
Richard Bertrand : thank you for a great webinar
Deborah Chan : thank you
Maribel : Good video quality, great content and great sound! Thanks
Dana B : Excellent webinar, thanks!
TORAL : I don't have access for dropbox
Worapun Y. : Thanks for your great information ... good night.
Eduardo : can we download the presentation 
George : Thank you
Luz : Thank you very much for sharing this valuable information.

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:22 PM

Lot's of chat and questions at today's webinar.
 
Jean-Yves : Good morning from Los Angeles
Chi Samuel : hello everyone from Cameroon 
Tanya : Good Morning from Iowa
Jennifer : Good morning from Idaho 
MARIA JOAO CARDOSO : hello from Porto, Portugal
Michael : Hello from Manchester
Emmanuel : Hello all from Nigeria.
Patricia : Patricia, hello everyone 
Kairit Luhakooder : Hello from Estonia
Jo : Good Afternoon from the UK
Edwin Bohm : good afternoon
julie : Hello from Norfolk, England
ossama Ismail : Hi , Good After-Noon 
Tara : Hello from the UK
super-tresmarias : nice evening from the Philippines
Mack : Hello from Maryland
CHARIF : Good Morning this is charif from New jersey USA
Ismael : Hello everyone
Sayid : Good afternoon from Dubsi
JUAN : Hello from California
Louise : Hello from Pennsylvannia
Natalie : Hello everyone!!
Natalia Tsumanets : Good evening from Russia. 
Birgit Beaufort-Glas : Good Afternoon from the Netherlands
SILVIA : Hi
Miguel Gamboa : Hello everyone from Las Vegas
Patrick : Hello fro Minneapolis
ossama Ismail : Ossama Ismail , Cairo , Egypt
Kim : Good Morning all
Tami : Hi good morning
Chillida : Good afternoon from Spain (Barcelona)
Nena : Good Morning from NB Canada.
Deborah Chan : Good Evening from Singapore
Wynn : Greetings from Texas.
andreas : Hi From Texas
John : ello from Canada
Donna Bromfield : Hello from the ATL
Nicola : Good Afternoon from London
Michelle : Good morning from Missouri, USA!
Riccardo : ciao from Italy
Nutthanich : Hi 
Daniel Frank : Richmond, Virginia calling!
Ewa : Hello
Aparna : Hello from Toronto, Canada
Fayaj : Hello all from India 
Laura Ramírez : Good morning from México!!
Azizan : hi, good afternoon/evening. I'm from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Christian Thomas : Good Morning from Cincinnati!!!!
Saritha Gourishetti : Hi
Mark : Good Morning from the San Joaquin Valley
Claudia : Hello from Colombia
Diana Silva : Hello from Portugal
Kimberly Allison

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