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#1 HokeyPokey

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 10:55 AM

My CEO was at a food show in Chicago this week and she hear that the FDA is starting testing ice cream for Salmonella.  Has anyone hear that yet.  I am working for a small ice cream plant. 


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:06 AM

My CEO was at a food show in Chicago this week and she hear that the FDA is starting testing ice cream for Salmonella.  Has anyone hear that yet.  I am working for a small ice cream plant. 

 

Do you mean more often than they have presumably been testing for it for many years ?

 

Actually i thought that statistically L.monocytogenes was regarded as a more significant hazard in ice cream ? Just speculating.


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 12:07 PM

We are testing for L. Monocytogenes.  Currently we are not testing for Salmonella. 


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 12:16 PM

We are testing for L. Monocytogenes.  Currently we are not testing for Salmonella. 

 

By "we" do you mean FDA ? Seems unlikely.


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 12:50 PM

Probably a follow on from the Cadbury's salmonella outbreak. I worked in a factory making Mondolez brand ice cream and every batch was tested for salmonella. We provided 8 pots and the lab made a composite sample for testing. A bit of a pain, but a customer requirement!


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 01:10 PM

The Plant is testing for listeria with Swab testing. 


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 01:24 PM

The Plant is testing for listeria with Swab testing. 

 

Hi hokey,

 

I presume you have a Product Specification for yr ice cream.

 

I anticipate that it includes non-detection of Salmonella in X gram.

 

IMEX Producers carry out routine micro.testing to verify their Product Specification. Some reasons - (a) HACCP verification, (b) Commercial "Self-protection", (c) Customer request, (d) Private Standard certification.

 

Perhaps you meant that you only do in-house swab testing for Listeria together with external micro. lab testing for XYZ ?.


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 02:10 PM

Our in-house test we do is ATP.

The swab that we are doing we send them out to a lab to be testing for Listeria


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 05:37 PM

Perhaps this will help

 

www.fda.gov/downloads/ICECI/Inspections/IOM/UCM123523.pdf


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:08 AM

Hi scampi,

 

It's a nice document but the sampling density for Salmonella is unreal for normal users. Supported by ICMSF and makes statistical sense but is logistically in Lulu Land.


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