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[Dinh key]

Hi Everyone!

Does anyone know about GMO, How to control procedure, What evidence or test report need to show auditor to prove that our foods without GMO ?

 

Thanks,

Dinh key

[hohoangvu]

You just need the seeding certification " not GMO" from whom give you seed. That is a evidence.

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[Ryan M.]

Actually, "it depends."  Need to know more about your ingredients and products.

 

Some you can easily show because the ingredients have no GMO variations available, like bananas.  Other ingredients may be higher risk because they are typical grown and/or processed near a high risk GMO crop or ingredient like corn.  Think of this in terms of grain millers, primary producers.  Other ingredients can be high risk, such as corn, soy, etc due to the wide use of GMO crops.

 

If you really want to "prove" this you can get a non-GMO certification.  SGS offers this service.  Also, in the US and maybe other countries too (?) Non-GMO Project.  SGS has an onsite audit with document audit.  Non-GMO Project bases the audit type (document and/or facility) on your risk level with the particular ingredients and products.

[moskito]

Dear Dinh key,

 

I agree with Ryan M. "it depends" where to source or where to sell.

 

We have for the US non-GMO verified certification due to the non existing law on GMO declaration. In the US most of the processed products will contain GMO to different extent.

 

In the EU you have to declare on pack if GMO is present as ingredient or contamination above 0,9%.

http://eur-lex.europ...ELEX:32003R1829

But this level is only if you as FBO are able to demontrate that the contamination is adventitious or technically unavoidable -> Art. 12   "provided that this presence is adventitious or technically unavoidable." Authorities today accept a contamination of <0,1% (not written) with authorized events.

Due to this legislation you will find nearly no products on the shelf with GMO declaration.

We are doing a risk assessment based on biological source, orgin etc. and we select ingredients very carefully. We perfer wheat instead of maize, sunflower lecithin instead of soy. If we are using soy lecithin we rely only on IP documentation which is support by analytical certificates. Acceptable limits are below 0,1% for each single ingredient.

In addition in Germany we have a "Ohne Gentechnik" certification layed down in a law with addon requirements compared to organic certification.

 

Rgds

moskito

[Ken Bookmyer]

You need to specify what your ingredients are. The easiest way to claim GMO free without argument is to show that there is no commercial source of GMO seeds for the ingredients you use. For example in the US. Cane Sugar all comes from GMO free Cane because there is no GMO Sugar Cane while Beet Sugar comes from 90+% GMO sources. 

 

If you are using ingredients from crops that are available from GMO seed then you need certification for the seed as GMO free from the seed supplier and you should probably insist on a test prior to processing to establish that the crop was not contaminated from a neighboring crop. I spoke with a pea protein supplier recently and he said that he could not guarantee his pea protein was not contaminated with a measurable amount of soy and further that he would guarantee that neither could any of his competitors and would pay for the testing to prove him right if we wanted to be from someone else. 

 

ken