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Posted 24 March 2004 - 07:04 AM

The subtitle is "Using traceability in the supply chain to meet consumer's safety expectations"

This is not my personal opinion :thumbdown:

Traceability does not ensure food safety, just as Tom Thumbs' bread pieces or Hansel & Gretel's white stones left on their path did not ensure their safety in the forest :smarty:

There's good stuff for reference purposes in this document.

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Posted 15 April 2004 - 12:14 PM

Hi Franco,

Often, when a product traceability or recall occurs, the product is destined to be unfit for human consumption anyway although this may not necessary be the case all the time. Therefore using tracability in the supply chain to meeting consumer's safety expectation is :bird:

I am more inclined to believe that such an action is more for the purpose of avoiding legal implications on public liabilities, minimising loss of product image, maintaining trade relations, trade protection etc.......most product recalls today if not directed by the country specific departments of food inspection services would most likely to be direct actions by BIG BRANDS :yay:

A requirement to have a sound traceability procedure manual / system would at least serve to provide some form of benefits to the consumers.

Your contribution ref. documents on traceability is fantastic. Any chance of getting some documents on how to assess risks prior to a traceability if indeed such an action is necessary.

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 07:00 AM

Any chance of getting some documents on how to assess risks prior to a traceability if indeed such an action is necessary.

Hi Charles,

find enclosed a recent document from the food business forum.

Risk assessment prior to designing and implementing a Traceability System means being able to estimate the probability of occurrence of let's say dioxine chicken contamination (see the enclosed file for details).

Is this literature you are looking for Charles or am I wrong ?

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 05:29 PM

Hi Franco,

Thanks for the attached documents.

We both know the importance of a sound traceability plan and is probably going to be a major issue. Simon recently posted a report on the latest product tagging techniques - an indication of whats to come in future.

I have recently initiated a topic in the Food Safety Forum Section under "Hazard Risks Assessment" meant to tackle issues concerning the gravity of a determined hazard or risk prior to recommending or justifying a decision to recall.

Really, it is a case of an event that has happened - with the hazards being known or unknown. Do we recall? And, where, what and how do we justify for such an action

For that matter, it could have derived from a mere customer complaint leading to a severe and potential threat to consumers' health.

There is nothing in the Codex that tells you how to assess a hazard risk prior to invoking the Traceability Plan. I have indicated certain areas that should be observed and the approach that I am using now may not even be correct.

Any ideas should be posted under the food safety forum.


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Posted 21 April 2004 - 07:18 PM

I have recently initiated a topic in the Food Safety Forum Section under "Hazard Risks Assessment" meant to tackle issues concerning the gravity of a determined hazard or risk prior to recommending or justifying a decision to recall.


Link to the discussion Charles refers to:

http://www.saferpak....st=0

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