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#1 Sankara narayanan

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 04:36 PM

Parallel food safety requirements with one audit

One wonders if there is going to be a single certificate or separate certificates for different standards, after the audit.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 04:28 PM

It is combined audit with so many standards at the same time/same audit. If you succeed, SGS will issue all audited certificates separately. It is save time and save cost. Audited mandays can be reduced with SGS justification. I heard that SGS try to promote this single food pack pack around the world.

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Which standards does Single Food Audit Pack cover?

Single Food Audit Pack solutions offer six combinations of different international food safety and quality standards:

Pack 1: ISO 9001 + ISO 22000
Pack 2: ISO 22000 + HACCP / GMP
Pack 3: ISO 22000 + ISO 9001 + HACCP / GMP
Pack 4: ISO 22000 + BRC
Pack 5: ISO 22000 + IFS
Pack 6: ISO 9001 + ISO 22000 + HACCP / GMP + BRC / IFS

What are the benefits?

SGS Single Food Audit Pack benefits your organisation in multiple ways:

  • Provides a more cost-effective service delivery through a single audit *
  • Causes less disruption; you can diary a single audit for multiple standards
  • Makes it simpler and easier for senior management to review the management systems through the single audit report
  • Assists internal alignment of different management systems thus improving efficiency
  • Addresses ‘non-conformities’ in a coordinated manner thanks to the SGS audit team with plenty of experience and knowledge across both standards
  • Makes it possible to issue separate certificates simultaneously against both standards through just one audit
  • Demonstrates the implementation of a most complete management systems for food safety and quality
  • Meets all customer requirements through a single process and report
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 08:04 PM

I think it's a very good idea, saves time and money.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 02:42 AM

Dear FSSM,

Is there an explanation of how GMP and HACCP are interpreted as "STANDARDS" ?, ie as defined by which regulation?

I also wonder if, for example, in Pack2, it is possible to pass ISO22000 and fail (HACCP and/or GMP), or perhaps only the reverse :smile: ?

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:05 PM

I hope more and more will do combined audits and hopefully we'll get back to the promised land of a single audit per year.
We just had our KFC Food Safety audit conducted by CMi who also do our BRC and they are discussing with KFC the feasibility of combining the two once they get auditors signed off on both standards.


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Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:47 PM

Anything that can reduce the cost of audits makes sense Lanser. In my world I would suggest two unannounced audits per year to an internationally recognised standard.

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 05:58 AM

It is combined audit with so many standards at the same time/same audit. If you succeed, SGS will issue all audited certificates separately.


An excellent idea. Quite difficult for the auditor though I would think.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:32 PM

Dear FSSM,

Is there an explanation of how GMP and HACCP are interpreted as "STANDARDS" ?, ie as defined by which regulation?

I also wonder if, for example, in Pack2, it is possible to pass ISO22000 and fail (HACCP and/or GMP), or perhaps only the reverse :smile: ?

Rgds / Charles.C


Dear Charles,

Here is a late reaction on your questions.
(I was not able to visit this forum for a very long time and now trying to read all the posts I have missed)

GMP+ 2006 is a Dutch standard for the production of animal feed and animal feed ingredients. It is owned by the Dutch product board animal feed. It is obligated to be certificated if you want to supply to (Dutch) feed producers.
For more information: follow this link: http://www.pdv.nl/in...ng.php?switch=1

Dutch HACCP (requirements for a HACCP-based food safety system, issue 4, 2006) is a GFSI approved certification scheme. It has the same owners as FSSC 22000.
More information: http://www.foodsafet...amp;pageid_up=0

For your second question: Yes, it is possible to fail for one scheme and pass another scheme, if they are verified in the same audit. This is caused by different certification rules. I have conducted a combination audit BRC/IFS which lead to a certificate grade C for BRC and failed for IFS (2 X major).
In my experience HACCP (or ISO 22000) audits will lead to more significant (product and food safety) non conformities as ISO 9001, which is only a managementsystem. It is possible to have a good general management system, but fail on e.g. the Hazard analyse, which will lead to major NC. It is however not common. Auditors use to copy the non-conformities into each audit report.

Edited by Madam A. D-tor, 13 January 2010 - 10:40 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 09:19 PM

Welcome back Madam A. D-tor, it's really nice to see you on the forums again. :smile:

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 02:26 AM

Regarding to the above statement stated by Madam A. D-tor ( Auditors use to copy the non-conformities into each audit report.) Can anyone post an example of how an audit report looks like? Will be very thankful! ^_^


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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:00 AM

Dear Muffin,

It is not possible to send you a lay out of a general audit report. Depending on the certification scheme and or the purpose of the audit, there are very different lay outs possible.

Do I understand that you have not been involved to any audits yet?

An audit report will at least contain information about the organisation audited, the status/conclusion: approved/not approved or certified/not certified (dependig on the purpose of the audit), the non-conformities (with or without planned corrective actions from the organisation), the audit trails (which processes and documents were reviewed) and depending on the certifcation scheme: a summaary of the findings or the checklist from the certification scheme.
For non-certification audits, e.g. supplier audits, customer audits, etc., even more different lay outs are possible.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

Dear Muffin,

It is not possible to send you a lay out of a general audit report. Depending on the certification scheme and or the purpose of the audit, there are very different lay outs possible.

Do I understand that you have not been involved to any audits yet?

An audit report will at least contain information about the organisation audited, the status/conclusion: approved/not approved or certified/not certified (dependig on the purpose of the audit), the non-conformities (with or without planned corrective actions from the organisation), the audit trails (which processes and documents were reviewed) and depending on the certifcation scheme: a summaary of the findings or the checklist from the certification scheme.
For non-certification audits, e.g. supplier audits, customer audits, etc., even more different lay outs are possible.

Simon, Thanks for your warm welkom.


Oh I see. Thanks Madam! :biggrin:

And regarding to your question, am I not involved in any audits yet? Yes, I'm still looking forward to that. That's why as early as now, I want to gather informations regarding auditing so as when the time comes, it would be perfectly easy for me to absorb the essence of auditing practices. Thanks a lot Madam! Surely helped me a lot. :smile:
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:39 AM

Going back to my request, I found one but just to confirm is this the one? Attached File  sample_food_audit.pdf   64.1KB   35 downloads


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