[a_andhika]

Dear Witek,

I think what you mean is Glass Management Policy, not politics, right? IMO, the policy may be different depend on the auditor. A Star Yum! auditor would consider the installation of lamp cover in FG warehouse is a must. But another auditor may consider it as a strongly suggested, and other may just recommend it and other may ignore it. So what kind of auditor that you mean? But how so ever, the glass policy itself is a must, no tolerance about that. Especially for those who work with glass containers.

As for the re-use bottle, I'd prefer to recycle those (glass) bottles instead causing a lot of trouble in my process. It may seems too expensive, but you may consider how many cost that needed to clean the mess (your beer will be a waste). Not mention the major cost if the broken glass visiting one of your products... The inspection of re-use bottle seems too hard for me. Its too difficult to determine which bottle that classified to be a good bottle and no. And it will need 100% inspection not just sampling.

Regards,


Arya

[Simon]

a_andhika, on Jun 23 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

IMO, the policy may be different depend on the auditor. A Star Yum! auditor would consider the installation of lamp cover in FG warehouse is a must. But another auditor may consider it as a strongly suggested, and other may just recommend it and other may ignore it.

IMHO I think its a must, those goods are often taken into other food factories. It's a simple control.

Thanks for your input Arya, and by the way I changed the title, you were right.

Regards,
Simon

[saypipi123]

Perhaps, a glass inpection record is needed, this can be carry out daily by QC (the frequency can be set not too frequent). In case there is any damage of glass, glass breakage shall be reported and report must be documented. All those affected (directly contaminated) products/raw materials shall be segregated. My company is implementing tempered glass instead of glass, this helps to convince auditor. Hope this may help.

[Simon]

saypipi123, on Jul 6 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

Perhaps, a glass inpection record is needed, this can be carry out daily by QC (the frequency can be set not too frequent). In case there is any damage of glass, glass breakage shall be reported and report must be documented. All those affected (directly contaminated) products/raw materials shall be segregated. My company is implementing tempered glass instead of glass, this helps to convince auditor. Hope this may help.

Tempered glass - it sounds expensive. What are you using it for?

Regards,
Simon

[AS NUR]

In my company.. glass covered by plastic film i think that more cheaper then tempered glassa...

[saypipi123]

Simon, on Jul 8 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

Tempered glass - it sounds expensive. What are you using it for?

Regards,
Simon

Tempered glass - for the cover of lighting, side glass of machine, windows. tempered glass is a strong way to convince the auditor. i m not sure about the pricing, but i make a guess that it is worthful. needless to worry about glass breakage and any food safety related issue (glass considered as sharp object which bring harmful).

[a_andhika]

Dear Forum,

In my current and previous company, we use plastics (mica) to cover our lamps, so it wont be shattered when broken. I never heard the usage of tempered glass before. All I know the tempered glass only for vehicle and bulidings. Nevertheless, every company has it own way to define the Glass Management Policy. As long as it not shattered into millions pieces when smashed, I think its fine.

Regards,


Arya

[saypipi123]

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As long as it not shattered into millions pieces when smashed, I think its fine.

Indeed, thanks for your information.