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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:50 AM

Hi,

Could you please share your experience of installing exhaust fans in processing area. We are installing big exhaust fans on the top almost near to the sealing in our Juice processing area . We plan to put a wire mesh to avoid the entry of any birds/rodents.

What other precautions to be taken to safeguard the system.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:05 AM

View PostAnish, on Jan 17 2010, 11:50 AM, said:

What other precautions to be taken to safeguard the system.

Hi Anish,

Why are you screening for birds and rodents but not for insects. Juice will probably attract insects.

Think in advance of cleaning and sanitizing. E.g. can you reach it, how to clean, frequency, etc.

Make sure that air is blown out and that there is no intake of air. I once have seen a incorrectly installed fan, which was taking in air (no filters) in a chicken slaughtery. Microbe load and condensation was a lot lower after they had fixed this.

Make sure it is placed somewehere that it can not contaminate your product. E.g. by dirt or parts falling of.
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Post icon  Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:10 AM

Thanks Madam D.Tor for your valued points. I will discuss with the concerned.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 08:19 AM

I would also consider, in addition to the insect screen, an Electric Fly Killer positioned near the fan so the little blighters would see it straight away when they get in. It's also important not to place it so they can see it from outside and it would encourage them to come in......unless of course you have the extractor fan going 24/7 in which case this is a moot point.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 08:37 AM

Another topic to consider is how to organise the airflow that results from you air extraction. Naturally, air extraction creates underpressure. Air will enter the building through any opening that is available. How can you prevent excess dust to be drawn into your premises? Is the fabric of the building adequately sealed? Are surrounds paved to reduce the amount of dust that becomes airborne?
In some instances, creating a lobby to reduce dust entering the preparation area is necessary. Also, after installing the exhaust system, air flow should be from clean to dirty areas (e.g. air flow from finished product storage areas to production to raw material storage to avoild contamination of the finished product with contaminatnts that originate from raw materials).

Steps to be taken depend on the situation of your premises.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 01:11 PM

Dear Matt,

Can you explain clearly what do u mean by the lobby here ?? In order to maintain the + air flow??
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 01:11 AM

View Postcarine, on Jan 20 2010, 08:11 PM, said:

Dear Matt,

Can you explain clearly what do u mean by the lobby here ?? In order to maintain the + air flow??



IMO.. you use airlock system, that is a system using small room to separate your premises and the outside place, the room have two door, and if the one door is open the other is closed.. the purpose of the system to reduce contamination from the outside area..
as I know, the open and closed system can be automatically or manually.. and ussually equiped by air shower to eliminate dust..

thats my opinion

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:03 PM

View PostAS NUR, on Jan 21 2010, 01:11 AM, said:

IMO.. you use airlock system, that is a system using small room to separate your premises and the outside place, the room have two door, and if the one door is open the other is closed.. the purpose of the system to reduce contamination from the outside area..
as I know, the open and closed system can be automatically or manually.. and ussually equiped by air shower to eliminate dust..

thats my opinion

rgds

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I agree with AS Nur, but in this case I don't think this control is valid as the extractor fans are planned to be in the ceiling. They must be screened to prevent ingress of any pests, dust, debris, water or any potential contaminant. Not easy if the air flow is not to be restricted. Careful design is required and also when in place regular maintenance and cleaning of the extractors.

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