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#1 carla

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 03:38 PM

Hi everyone :helpplease:

Can anyone please help me with the following question "what is the relevance and contrasts of Deming's 14 points with respect to the 8 management principles in ISO 9000:2000"?

I have only just obtained internet excess at home and have carried out some research on the subject, but as yet, i have been unable to find anything that actually makes reference to the two.

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Carla



#2 Wallace Tait

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 03:52 PM

Hi everyone :helpplease:

Can anyone please help me with the following question "what is the relevance and contrasts of Deming's 14 points with respect to the 8 management principles in ISO 9000:2000"?

I have only just obtained internet excess at home and have carried out some research on the subject, but as yet, i have been unable to find anything that actually makes reference to the two.

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Carla



Hi Carla,
Your question can be answered by studying Deming's System of Profound Knowledge (SoPK).
I believe I posted a visual within Saferpak that references his system. If you don't find it here, post a reply and I'll send you a copy of the visual?
The bottom line here is; the ISO standards as they stand, miss the point in many ways regarding understanding variation, information management, systems thinking and psychology.
I guess there's lots for you to consider here yet, it's always good to gain a sound foundation to your future understanding of the correlations to and with system and ISO.
Regards
Wallace Tait.

Edited by Wallace Tait, 29 October 2005 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2005 - 08:53 PM

Thank you for your reply, and yes, if you could please send me a copy of the visual, that would be very heplful.

Thanks again

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Posted 03 November 2005 - 05:16 AM

Thank you for your reply, and yes, if you could please send me a copy of the visual, that would be very heplful.

Thanks again

carla


Send me a PM and we'll go from there.
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Posted 02 January 2006 - 04:29 PM

I'm not sure if this will help Carla, but I tried some time ago to cross reference Ed Deming's 14 points with both the ISO 9000 principles and the EFQM Excellence Model concepts,

Result attached..Attached File  Deming__ISO_BEM.doc   27.5KB   308 downloads



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Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:48 PM

Hello
i just want to thank the team working on this forum. google landed me on this site and as i was in a bit of a hurry i dint c the details n ws tryin to dl the provided file. got registered here in a jiffy n a gud thing too...am glad i found exactly wat i wanted in a short time. :) keep up the good work



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Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:54 PM

Hello
i just want to thank the team working on this forum. google landed me on this site and as i was in a bit of a hurry i dint c the details n ws tryin to dl the provided file. got registered here in a jiffy n a gud thing too...am glad i found exactly wat i wanted in a short time. :) keep up the good work

Glad you got what you needed Iris. In a hurry or not, thank you for the feedback.

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