12 replies to this topic

[HH_Researcher]

Hi there,

I'm currently doing a research on the critical limit of microorganism on food contact surface and clean rooms in RTE factories and pharma factories in the US, India and China. My problem is to find official documents stating the critical limit as, e.g. cfu/ cm^2 and what kind of microarganism are being screened.

Any help will be appreciated.

Many Thank in advance,

HH_Researcher

[mind over matter]

First of all I'd like to you to the IFSQN. I think I'll leave your question for microbiologist members.

Edited by mind over matter, 16 November 2011 - 02:18 PM.

[HH_Researcher]

First of all I'd like to you to the IFSQN. I think I'll leave your question for microbiologist members.

Thanks for the warm welcome. I hope some experts could give me an answer.

Cheers,
HH_Researcher

[SaniS]

Hi,

The following link will be helpfull. U ll find lot of discussions about this on this forum.

http://www.ifsqn.com...3078#entry43078

[AS NUR]

Hi there,

I'm currently doing a research on the critical limit of microorganism on food contact surface and clean rooms in RTE factories and pharma factories in the US, India and China. My problem is to find official documents stating the critical limit as, e.g. cfu/ cm^2 and what kind of microarganism are being screened.

Any help will be appreciated.

Many Thank in advance,

HH_Researcher

Hi Researcher

I have this document, i hope it can help you

rgds

AS NUR

Attached Files

•  ClassificationOfCleanrooms2005.pdf   109.24KB   105 downloads

[Charles.C]

Dear HH researcher,

Items below overlap parts of info. in AS NUR’s nice attachment but maybe of some interest.

Overview but quite informative –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanroom

Another link which seemed quite useful –
http://www.mssl.ucl....ards.html#iso_s

The books authored by Whyte appear to be popular comprehensive treatises in the genre, latest is prob. published 2010 (cleanroom technology). Viewable on google. Nonetheless, a lot of standards still currently in use seem quite old.

2 more related documents –

 background iso cleanroom contamination standards.pdf   62.74KB   56 downloads

This, slightly OT, multi-country data comparison of standards was issued 2006 although quoted source in final table is ca 2001.

 filter standard chart.pdf   90.05KB   49 downloads

and lastly for food people -

 cleanroom micro. procedure suitable for validation garments for food processing.pdf   51.48KB   55 downloads

Rgds / Charles.C

[HH_Researcher]

Thank you very much to SaniS, AS NUR and Charles.C!

I didn't expect so many replies within such a short time. This forum is just wonderful!

Ma questions in regard to the cleanrooms are pretty much resolved, just need a bit of time to go through all the information. Do you guys happen to know whether the standards concerning cleanrooms are also valid/applicable for China and India or just for the EU and the US?

Now, my biggest problem in finding answers is the microbiological standard for food contact surface. I even called the FDA, but the lady on the phone just told me to look up the FD&A Act Food Adulteration. Well, I looked up and I'm as clueless as before as there was nothing specific telling me what is the tolerance, what kind of microbes are screened, etc.

Maybe you guys could help me out there.

Thanks again for your great help and many thanks in advance for further assistance.

Cheers,

HH_Researcher.

[Charles.C]

Dear HH researcher,

Do you guys happen to know whether the standards concerning cleanrooms are also valid/applicable for China and India or just for the EU and the US?

Personally, no idea, sorry. Indian / Chinese posters any ideas ?

Now, my biggest problem in finding answers is the microbiological standard for food contact surface.

Yr query as stated above has a giant-sized scope.

There are a multitude of threads here on this topic offering an equally large number of widely different answers, eg try searching for "swab".

Can suggest this one (Feb.2011) as a starter which contains numerous, general, sub-links -

http://www.ifsqn.com...dpost__p__43078

Or, as example of a later, more focussed (hands/S.aureus/Sep.2011) can try this one -

http://www.ifsqn.com...dpost__p__48944

Or, to illustrate some confusions, USA specific (initially anyway ) -

http://www.ifsqn.com...dpost__p__45149

Rgds / Charles.C

[HH_Researcher]

Dear Charles.C,

Thank you very much for your valuable help. I will delve myself deeper into the links you gave me. In case I might encounter new questions, I would come back to ask for assistance. Thanks a lot!

Have a nice weekend

Best Regards,

HH_Researcher

[AS NUR]

Ma questions in regard to the cleanrooms are pretty much resolved, just need a bit of time to go through all the information. Do you guys happen to know whether the standards concerning cleanrooms are also valid/applicable for China and India or just for the EU and the US?

As I know , ISO cleanrooms standard is applicable for China and India.


rgds

AS Nur

[HH_Researcher]

As I know , ISO cleanrooms standard is applicable for China and India.


rgds

AS Nur

I'm pretty sure your are right. But I also need an official document stating so. I hope a Chinese or Indian forumer could enlighten me.

Thanks a lot and best regards,

HH_Researcher

[qa_pcfoods]

These are useful for me.

Thanks >_<!!

[Lexter Cruz]

Hello to all,

This topic is a great help for me also the attachments and other web links.
Just same here we currently establishing limit for food contact surface and clean room.

Amazing info that could enlighten our query...

thanks,
Factory Hygienist