does anyone have full hazard analysis and assessment of associated risks of hand hygiene? This refers to IFS point 3.4.9
Kind regards,
Tatjana
Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:08 PM
Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:18 AM
Dear all,
does anyone have full hazard analysis and assessment of associated risks of hand hygiene? This refers to IFS point 3.4.9
Kind regards,
Tatjana
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:56 AM
Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:34 AM
Dear Tatiana,
I am not a IFS user myself and unfortunately I think there are not many on this forum.
I hv had a look at IFS6 and 5 documentation. IFS have obviously had difficulties with translation to English language plus subsequent intended interpretations. Seems to be some confusion in various sub-sections over risk analysis / hazard analysis / required scope thereof.
I can only suggest you follow the same response format (??) as you used in ver5 to respond to similar worded texts in 3.4.5 and 3.4.8 . I noticed the provided auditor guideline for 3.4.5 seemed to considerably simplify the expected result in comparison to the original heavyweight requirements, ie no mention of HACCP.
I also noticed the IFS document / amendment clarification for ver5 (3.4.5 and 3.4.8) contained –
Clarification
This hazard analysis shall be understandable by the auditors. This can be done in written format e.g. within the HACCP-hazard analysis concerning e.g. personal hygiene, cleaning and disinfection etc. but also in the form of other evidences which shall be clear for the auditors.
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:54 PM
I have an example in French
you can translate it if you want
bye
Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:55 PM
this the file
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:00 PM
this the file
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:51 AM
Hi All,
The application of HA in this case is referred to the suitability of design and adequacy in quantity and locations rather than as a process control measure.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:18 PM
Hi All,
The application of HA in this case is referred to the suitability of design and adequacy in quantity and locations rather than as a process control measure.
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:07 PM
Should the handwashing procedure (and the micro. swab standard?) for workers entering a production zone for RTE material be more rigorous than for non-RTE output, or, say, a store worker (assuming [perhaps?] that none wear gloves)?
Rgds / Charles.C
There are additional requirements for areas where highly perishable food products are handled in 3.4.8. but I agree areas of work and types of product will influence any assessment of the level of control required.
Regards,
Tony
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 10:52 AM
Just following up on this post our IFS auditor required us to swab hands to "control the effectiveness" of handwashing. Our Micro lab recommended we check for Coagulase +ve stapholococcus and Enterobacteriaceae. We test approc 10cm2 of hand, including betreen fingers and have set a limit of <10cfu/swab on both these.
We have had some swabs back with higher Enterobacteriaceae and I was just wondering is this limit too low? Does anyone one have references to acceptable limits?
Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:05 PM
Just following up on this post our IFS auditor required us to swab hands to "control the effectiveness" of handwashing. Our Micro lab recommended we check for Coagulase +ve stapholococcus and Enterobacteriaceae. We test approc 10cm2 of hand, including betreen fingers and have set a limit of <10cfu/swab on both these.
We have had some swabs back with higher Enterobacteriaceae and I was just wondering is this limit too low? Does anyone one have references to acceptable limits?
Dear monkeyman,
Hands tend to get categorised in with food contact surfaces although the logic is questionable.
Can try this -
http://www.ifsqn.com...ces/#entry60958
For certain products, eg UK RTE chilled foods, from memory, the limit for S.aureus suggested by one authoritative source is zero (nil detection) if repeated detections are involved.
Rgds / Charles.C
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:28 AM
Thanks for that information Charles, I should have looked harder.
I must correct my initial info by saying it is 100cm2 swabbing area (10x10=100!).
As you show there is plenty of information and your summary is brilliant but these seems no agreement.
I am going to ask our local EHO if they have any set tolerance and will let you know the outcome.
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