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Posted 02 October 2014 - 08:43 AM

Hey, 

 

I was just wondering do any of you, use a fogging machine for sanitising a food production factory. I'm doing a bit of research into whether or not it would be useful enough. 

 

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 09:47 AM

Hi

 

I've used a fogging machine to apply pesticide and a fogging machine to throw a wild party, but never  to clean.  Is that what they call a steam cleaner in England?

 I;ve used  steam cleaners (steam vapor) but I prefer dry ice blasters - with them I can hit electrical boxes etc without damaging wires - they do not sanitize, they only clean.  You can rent them.  

Or are you looking for a foamer?  Those can sanitize (with chemicals) are relatively cheap,  here's a few links (I too am having trouble posting jpegs, Mr. I is not alone) ...

 

Foamer, roughly $20- $25 / ea

 

Nice foamer - roughly $1k

 

Industrial Steam Cleaner - approx $15-$25k or 1k/week rental

 

Ice Blaster - approx $20- $25k or 1k/week rental

 

I would ask your chemical rep what tools will work best to sanitize with your equipment - there are a lot of variables to consider


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 09:53 AM

lol no its definitely a fogger 

 

http://www.nixalite....rulvfogger.aspx that's a link to one, my boss asked me to do a bit of research on using one 

 

Thanks 



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 10:05 AM

Hi Donna

 

Yes we fog regularly. We also put out airplates to see what our micro loading is in a particular area.

 

 

I've used fogging equipment everywhere i've worked.

 

Caz x



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 10:18 AM

Holy cow!  I want one of these!

This thing looks like a rocket launcher - smartfog_100x100.jpg


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 06:13 PM

Hi Donna

 

Yes we fog regularly. We also put out airplates to see what our micro loading is in a particular area.

 

 

I've used fogging equipment everywhere i've worked.

 

Caz x

So would you be testing for Yeast & molds or just APC control overall ? Interesting I am evaluating a similar project and considering a fogger for Mold Control in a room which is has some hard to reach area.



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 09:03 PM

Holy cow!  I want one of these!

This thing looks like a rocket launcher - smartfog_100x100.jpg

I missed that picture on the website.  I don't need it......but I want one!  It could also be used as an employee inducement. "Get it right or...." and then pull out the fogging gun.. 

 

I have not personally used one but have gotten mixed reviews on them.  Seem to be something people either love or hate.  Would think its effectiveness would be really based on your environment.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 11:54 AM

Hi DonnaC

 

I have done quite a lot of investigatory work around fogging machines/chemicals in food factories and there has been a number of research papers in this field as well. 

 

What you need to consider is:

 

1. Chemical

2. Concentration

3. IP rating of EVERYTHING within the room being fogged

4. How long to fog for

5. How the fogging machine will stop after cycle

6. When is it safe to enter the room again

7. Are you able to seal off the room to prevent leakage and subsequent food contamination/health & safety risks

8. Is the chemical suitable to remove biofilms

9. Health and safety of airborne chemical

 

Let me know if you want further information.

 

Thanks,

 

Simon



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:58 PM

Hello,

 

I have never heard of this before.. BUT regardless of what you use, the most important part is to VALIDATE IT.  My recommendation is to try to get your supplier to borrow you or lease you the equipment, so you can use it for some time and run some tests, before and after cleaning and get quantitative indicators for what you are trying to reduce (Aerobic Plate Count, Adenosine Triphosphate, Yeats, Mold) or. what ever is the best indicator for your product/operation.  If they have any product "claims", such as bacteria reduction log, try to confirm that.



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 01:06 PM

I have done quite a lot of investigatory work around fogging machines/chemicals in food factories and there has been a number of research papers in this field as well.

 

I've heard differing opinions on the effectiveness of fogging with sanitizers for the purpose of controlling microorganisms.  What have you found in this regard?  Thank you in advance!



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 01:27 PM

Thanks for the advice everyone. 

 

I've heard differing opinions on the effectiveness of fogging with sanitizers for the purpose of controlling microorganisms.  What have you found in this regard?  Thank you in advance!

 

I'm going to conduct some analysis on this like Antores metntioned RMAV so if you want I can share my findings with you :)



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 04:52 PM

We used to fog years ago but did not find it very effective.  You might consider looking at a Biomist system as another option.  It is an atomizing gun system that helps disperse an alcohol based sanitizer that also has a residual.  I have not yet used one, but I think it looks very promising and I have started the footwork to try to get one for a trial.  www.biomistinc.com






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