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#1 Hazira

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:47 AM

Hello all,

 

I have a question.

My next BRC Audit scheduled in September / October. And the BRC/IOP Global Standard - Food Packaging issue 5 will be out on 01st July 2015.

Do i need to purchase an original copy of the new revised standard that i presume will supersede the issue #4.

 

Thank you & Regards,

Hazira



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Posted 29 June 2015 - 02:26 PM

Hello Hazira Not necessarily for the upcoming Audit .

 

But its always good to have up-to-date standards originals at the time of Audit.



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Posted 29 June 2015 - 06:33 PM

BRC requires the facility to have a hard copy of the standard(s) present during the Audit.



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Posted 01 July 2015 - 11:46 AM

BRC Packaging 5 will be published July 2015, but audits against it start January 1 2016, so you will be safe for your audit coming up.

 

As a side note, all BRC Standards can be freely downloaded at www.brcbookshop.com. There are several translations, depending on the Standard, that are also freely downloadable. It can be a little tricky to get the translation, notes bleow on how to do it.

 

John

 

 

Go to www.brcbookshop.com
Scroll down to the lower part of the page.
Select (by clicking on) the Standard you want:
On the next page, select (by clicking on the picture) the UK English free pdf:
On the next page, scroll down to the bottom, and select (by clicking on) the translation you want:
On the next page, select (by clicking on) the free pdf (note this time it is the translated version – and
note hard copies may be purchased, but there is a fee):
On the next page, click on “add to basket”:
On the next page, (verify the pricing is correct for what you order) then click “checkout”:
On the next page, fill in the contact information – note that any changes or updates to the Standard will
be sent to the e-mail address given
On the next page, click on “continue”
On the next page, scroll down, and click “confirm”:
On the next page, click on “My Downloads”:
On the next page, click on “Download”:
If needed, either “Open…” or “Save…” (recommend “open”):
 



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 12:50 PM

BRC Packaging 5 will be published July 2015, but audits against it start January 1 2016, so you will be safe for your audit coming up.

 

As a side note, all BRC Standards can be freely downloaded at www.brcbookshop.com. There are several translations, depending on the Standard, that are also freely downloadable. It can be a little tricky to get the translation, notes bleow on how to do it.

 

John

 

 

Go to www.brcbookshop.com
Scroll down to the lower part of the page.
Select (by clicking on) the Standard you want:
On the next page, select (by clicking on the picture) the UK English free pdf:
On the next page, scroll down to the bottom, and select (by clicking on) the translation you want:
On the next page, select (by clicking on) the free pdf (note this time it is the translated version – and
note hard copies may be purchased, but there is a fee):
On the next page, click on “add to basket”:
On the next page, (verify the pricing is correct for what you order) then click “checkout”:
On the next page, fill in the contact information – note that any changes or updates to the Standard will
be sent to the e-mail address given
On the next page, click on “continue”
On the next page, scroll down, and click “confirm”:
On the next page, click on “My Downloads”:
On the next page, click on “Download”:
If needed, either “Open…” or “Save…” (recommend “open”):
 

 

Hello John,

 

I didn't understand that free pdf is the full version of BRC-IoP V.5?

 

Thanks,

 

Ozlem GUNEL



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Posted 10 July 2015 - 01:59 PM

BRC requires the facility to have a hard copy of the standard(s) present during the Audit.

 

Are you sure this is correct? It appears they may have changed this as standard 1.1.5 now states "The site shall have a genuine, current hard copy OR electronic version of the Standard available."

 

Let me know, thanks



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 04:32 AM

Hello all,

 

I have a question.

My next BRC Audit scheduled in September / October. And the BRC/IOP Global Standard - Food Packaging issue 5 will be out on 01st July 2015.

Do i need to purchase an original copy of the new revised standard that i presume will supersede the issue #4.

 

Thank you & Regards,

Hazira

 

Hi Hazira,

 

You will need to register but Issue 5 is available free here http://www.brcbooksh...e-5-uk-free-pdf

 

A copy of Issue 4 will be current and sufficient until the end of the year: 'All certificates issued against audits carried out prior to 1 January 2016 will be against Issue 4 and will be valid for the period specified on the certificate.'

 

Regards,

 

Tony
 

 

Are you sure this is correct? It appears they may have changed this as standard 1.1.5 now states "The site shall have a genuine, current hard copy OR electronic version of the Standard available."

 

Let me know, thanks

 

I believe both are acceptable either way:

 

Issue 4 1.2.7 The company shall have a current, original copy of the Standard available on site.

Issue 5 1.1.5 The site shall have a genuine, current hard copy or electronic version of the Standard available.

 

BRC website FAQs:
'2.2 What is defined as a current issue of the Standard as required by clause 1.2.7
An original issue of the Global Standard for Packaging and Packaging Materials Issue 4 must be available on site.
You can purchase your copy of the Standard, which is available in various languages, in print or as a PDF (where usage rules apply). This must not be a photocopy and should be made available to all relevant staff to ensure they understand the Standard’s requirements.'

 

Regards,

 

Tony

 



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 03:26 PM

Just an update, according to today's webinar the use of the free PDF version of Issue 5 is sufficient for fulfilling the requirement so long as it it readily available. 



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 05:55 PM

Hi Hazira,

 

You will need to register but Issue 5 is available free here http://www.brcbooksh...e-5-uk-free-pdf

 

A copy of Issue 4 will be current and sufficient until the end of the year: 'All certificates issued against audits carried out prior to 1 January 2016 will be against Issue 4 and will be valid for the period specified on the certificate.'

 

Regards,

 

Tony
 

 

 

I believe both are acceptable either way:

 

Issue 4 1.2.7 The company shall have a current, original copy of the Standard available on site.

Issue 5 1.1.5 The site shall have a genuine, current hard copy or electronic version of the Standard available.

 

BRC website FAQs:
'2.2 What is defined as a current issue of the Standard as required by clause 1.2.7
An original issue of the Global Standard for Packaging and Packaging Materials Issue 4 must be available on site.
You can purchase your copy of the Standard, which is available in various languages, in print or as a PDF (where usage rules apply). This must not be a photocopy and should be made available to all relevant staff to ensure they understand the Standard’s requirements.'

 

Regards,

 

Tony

 

 

 

Just an update, according to today's webinar the use of the free PDF version of Issue 5 is sufficient for fulfilling the requirement so long as it it readily available. 

 

I thought I'd covered that? Issue 5 is relevant from 2016 though.

 

Please let us know which webinar you are talking about.

 

Regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

I thought I'd covered that? Issue 5 is relevant from 2016 though.

 

Please let us know which webinar you are talking about.

 

Regards,

 

Tony

Yes, I just wanted everyone to be reassured, the info came directly from the BRC Webinar that was broadcast today. The BRC presenter also mentioned that it would take an extremely difficult auditor to not support the newest iteration of the Issue even before its official implementation. 

 

Thanks, Matt



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:26 PM

Yes, I just wanted everyone to be reassured, the info came directly from the BRC Webinar that was broadcast today. The BRC presenter also mentioned that it would take an extremely difficult auditor to not support the newest iteration of the Issue even before its official implementation. 

 

Thanks, Matt

 

Charles would love this:

 

'The BRC presenter also mentioned that it would take an extremely difficult auditor to not support the newest iteration of the Issue even before its official implementation'

 

Again, please let us know which BRC webinar you are referring to?

 

Regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:29 PM

Charles would love this:

 

'The BRC presenter also mentioned that it would take an extremely difficult auditor to not support the newest iteration of the Issue even before its official implementation'

 

Again, please let us know which BRC webinar you are referring to?

 

Regards,

 

Tony

BRC Global Standard for Packaging and Packaging Materials Issue 5 – Understanding the Changes

 

Presented by Joanna Griffiths - Packaging Technical Manager BRC Global Standards



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:09 PM

BRC Global Standard for Packaging and Packaging Materials Issue 5 – Understanding the Changes

 

Presented by Joanna Griffiths - Packaging Technical Manager BRC Global Standards

 

Is that a BRC presenter?

 

Regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:57 PM

Is that a BRC presenter?

 

Regards,

 

Tony

Yes it was an official BRC webinar and Presenter, I would imagine they would post this to the Knowledge Center at some point.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:07 AM

Hello all,

 

Thank you for all the reply, i really appreciate them.

By the way, i just download the BRC Issue 5 from BRC bookshop, thanks all  :happydance:

 

I feel quite nervous on my second-year audit. My boss told us that this year it will be unannounced audit,

Can anyone give me a sight of what should i expect :( . 



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Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:23 PM

Hello all,

 

I have a question.

My next BRC Audit scheduled in September / October. And the BRC/IOP Global Standard - Food Packaging issue 5 will be out on 01st July 2015.

Do i need to purchase an original copy of the new revised standard that i presume will supersede the issue #4.

 

Thank you & Regards,



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Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:44 PM

 

Hello all,

 

I have a question.

My next BRC Audit scheduled in September / October. And the BRC/IOP Global Standard - Food Packaging issue 5 will be out on 01st July 2015.

Do i need to purchase an original copy of the new revised standard that i presume will supersede the issue #4.

 

Thank you & Regards,

 

 

You can create a free account @ http://www.brcbookshop.com and then choose the scheme you want and download a PDF file, which will be sufficient enough. I conduct audits and implement plans,  and they have not asked for a hardcopy yet. That of course is from my experience, and as we all know each auditor is different :lol2:

 

Side note, you have to also show that you have conformed to the new scheme, there is a section in the scheme which mentions that "you" as an organization will update internal programs to follow new schemes and are up-to-date. An auditor may ask why wasn't at least a meeting conducted when the new scheme came out to discuss any changes that may need to happen.

 

Hope that helps!






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