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#1 Tamari

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:00 AM

Hello, 

Can you tell me how many samples should we take for antibiotics  in the case of 107 tons of chicken fillets containing three different container ? or tell me which EU regulation cover the sampling methods of antibiotics? 



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 11:51 AM

Tamari,

 

This powerpoint has a lot of focus on milk initially but it also has the regulation and some sampling from other food products.  It also directly cites the EU food regulations for antibiotic testing and limits and It might be enough to get your started.

 

Attached File  Belgrade_250908_MLScippo.pdf   565.57KB   4 downloads

 

The website is from the EU food commission and should give you some sites that you can review for sampling and testing requirements and limits.

 

https://ec.europa.eu...ing_analysis_en


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 02:09 PM

One would also look at the country of origin and what the MRL levels are there

 

IMHO, you shouldn't be finding ANY

 

All food animals are supposed to follow withdrawal periods (time when medication is no longer given to the animal) as per the prescription the vet has issued for any medication

 

when withdrawal is followed correctly, all medications (antibiotics or otherwise) will have metabolized completely.

 

The EU requires, you the customer OR your the seller to test?????


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 02:15 PM

Here is the page for veterinary medicine testing

 

https://ec.europa.eu...med_residues_en

 

https://eur-lex.euro...6L0023-20130701

 

I am curious why YOU are testing...........this sort of thing is usually handled by the government body..........this sort of testing is very complex AND expensive


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 03:55 PM

Scampi 

Unfortunately , our food safety authority can`t check it, I know it is expensive  and  difficult to test, but our consumer requested it and we should provide relevant certificate.  



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 04:17 PM

ok, are you the slaughterhouse or just on the receiving end?

 

It would be helpful to have copies of the relevant animal health certificates to know what to test for


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:01 PM

We are producing pet food for European company and they are asking  this test for them internal control.  



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:06 PM

What I would do is the following

 

1) touch base with your meat suppliers and ask them what samples are taken, when they are taken and for copies of the report(s)

 

2) set MRL in house that are TIGHTER than the EU requirements for human consumption

 

3) if you can afford it (this is really expensive testing) and since your customer demands it, you should be doing EACH container until you get a baseline then you can do something called "skip lot" randomized sampling ( you can get an excel sheet to randomize sampling dates/#s for you)

 

4) Generally speaking, these are not tests you can get back quickly as they are incredible involved

 

Are you sure your customer wouldn't be satisfied if you could prove your supply chain?


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:42 PM

Scampi, 

 

I tried to get information from our supplier, but my company bought meat before they choose me :) they did`t know about the any certificate and therefore supplier are not providing anything. But consumer required levels of antibiotics in final products. we are checking only one time into raw materials, I already had talk about this and we are searching new supplier who can provide all necessary information.  



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 05:50 PM

Ultimately, all you should need is a Letter of Guarantee from the slaughterhouse

 

In Canada,I could have provided my customer with a veterinarian report stating that each container ONLY had meat with zero antibiotics in it based on the animal heath report (which is a legally binding document)

 

CFIA vets have to have the livestock health document PRIOR to the animal(s) arriving at the slaughterhouse, so if there was an issue, you might still be allowed to proceed with slaughter, but all products (including those for animal feed) would have to be held pending lab results.

 

I've added the link to poultry inspection in Canada, hopefully you can find some useful information that you can use with upper management to get a better/new supplier

 

 

http://www.inspectio...138?chap=3#s8c3

 

 

BTW, there has been an ongoing HUGE recall in the USA regarding pet food contamination , which may explain why your customer is asking for this information

https://www.petful.c...g-food-recalls/

 

 

 

In the meantime, call the closed good quality lab, and speak to them about MRL testing for antibiotics


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Posted 22 October 2018 - 06:23 PM

Scampi, 

 

thank you for your helping, it`s really helpful information. 






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