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[Boxes]

Hello,

 

We manufacture and warehouse corrugated packaging and are working towards moving one of our facilities to compliance with AIB.   The facility has a Pest Control provider that has been used for several years with great success as reported by the facility top Management. In review of the program, bait stations are used both internally and externally using rodenticide bait containing Bromadiolone and Bromethalin. This has been discussed with the provider and moving to interior catch traps was not something he was willing to move to as he has been in the pest control business for a long time with background experience working with the FDA and disease control. Stating interior bait stations were the best route for our needs.

 

I am familiar with the AIB standard as it reads like this would be unacceptable. Can someone shed some light on this for me? Are there any exceptions or instances where interior bait stations would be acceptable for our needs? Upper Plant Management has informed me that they really want to work with this Pest Control provider and keep his services. 

 

 

[SQFconsultant]

"...provider and moving to interior catch traps was not something he was willing to move to as he has been in the pest control business for a long time with background experience working with the FDA and disease control. Stating interior bait stations were the best route for our needs."

 

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Tell him it's not up to him, to get real world - only non-baited stations for the interior.

 

If he will not bend, find one that understands working with packaging companies that may have an impact on food.

[TimG]

No, I can't think of any food safety scheme I've been involved with that is ok with rodenticide (POISON) inside the facility. In fact, prior to my first AIB inspection in this facility last year I went ahead and got a 'test' inspection to catch any things that I might have missed. One thing the test inspector said was borderline major, was that our bait boxes were too close to a frequently used (often open) overhead door into our final product warehouse. He told me during that test audit that if it had been a real audit, there could be a possibility of instant failure. It could have been a bit of scare tactics, but I want to impress upon you that these weren't even INSIDE the facility.

No, I'm with Glenn. If your PCO can't get you some simple tin-cats for inside like the vast majority of other PCO's that deal with food and food packaging manufacturers then go ahead and find someone that can.

 

Edit: Changed audit to inspection, I keep forgetting AIB calls their GMP an 'inspection' not audit :X

Edited by TimG, 07 December 2020 - 06:48 PM.

[Setanta]

Having a rodenticide in your facility is a bad idea.  

[Hoosiersmoker]

We are a packaging manufacturer also (paperboard). You may NOT have bait stations inside the plant. "Tin Cat" type ONLY! Also, don't let them store any of their chemicals at your location. I've heard of some pest control companies trying this and it is not acceptable as you take full responsibility for documentation, control and handling of these chemicals as part of your Chemical Control (HAZCOM) program.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the pest control company works for you, correct. Your opinion is the only one that matters here. Also, explain to your owners that keeping his services as is could jeopardize your certification as a major (if not critical) failure. They should change their tune and direct the pest control company to change if they want to keep them around. Personally, given their resistance to your direction, I'd be looking for another vendor and let them know that too!