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[Stacys]

We do many wet washes weekly with a foam it unit. The equipment gets a rinse with hot water, chlorinated degreaser with mixture of water the liquid test between 1350ppm-1500ppm, gets applied to the equipment and sits for five minutes. After five minutes the equipment is rinsed with hot water and tested with ATP each and every time and when need for All eight allergens. My question is do we also need to apply a sanitizer after we do the chlorinated wet wash. ATP has to be 20 or under and the allergen test have to pass or all equipment is rewashed with the chlorinated degreaser.

 

 

[ESuttmiller]

ALWAYS SANITIZE. Your current method is just asking for trouble. ATP swabs are great and all, but any major manufacturer  I've ever worked for (and I've worked also for a large cleaning chemical company) has had a wash-rinse-test (which is where you are stopping)-sanitize  cycle. There is a reason that there are 3 comp sinks. It is a critical step. If you don't want to rinse again, use a no-rinse sanitizer (many good ones out there). 

[Scampi]

YES!   Proper sanitation is always 4 steps-ALWAYS

 

Pre rinse

Clean

Clear Rinse

Sanitize

[Charles.C]

The detergent appears to contain a sanitizer ?

 

What does its supplier say ?

 

How are the results ?

[Ryan M.]

The chlorine is likely just a booster in for the wash, not really meant for sanitizing.  I agree with others, need to have a last no-rinse sanitize step.  Water can have bacteria in it and even a low or zero on the ATP does not mean it is "bacteria free" surface.  Plus, you have potential for outgrowth later on.

 

A nice peracetic acid sanitize would be good if that works for your equipment surfaces

[Charles.C]

The chlorine is likely just a booster in for the wash, not really meant for sanitizing.  I agree with others, need to have a last no-rinse sanitize step.  Water can have bacteria in it and even a low or zero on the ATP does not mean it is "bacteria free" surface.  Plus, you have potential for outgrowth later on.

 

A nice peracetic acid sanitize would be good if that works for your equipment surfaces

 

Hi Ryan,

 

IIRC, at least one US suppplier manufacture (or at least used to) a designated bi-functional product although no personal usage/evaluation.

 

IMEX it is micro. critical to ensure equipment such as trays etc are allowed to dry after the C/S treatment. Preferably overnight.

[Ryan M.]

Most sanitation / chemical companies have bi-functional products, but their usage and application is different when used as a cleaner / detergent versus as a sanitizer.

 

 

Hi Ryan,

 

IIRC, at least one US suppplier manufacture (or at least used to) a designated bi-functional product although no personal usage/evaluation.

 

IMEX it is micro. critical to ensure equipment such as trays etc are allowed to dry after the C/S treatment. Preferably overnight.

[Charles.C]

Most sanitation / chemical companies have bi-functional products, but their usage and application is different when used as a cleaner / detergent versus as a sanitizer.

 

Hi Ryan,

 

I expect you are correct. Context Rules !

 

I have personally never encountered anyone using a single step option other than the occasional "Sanitizer-only" solution which is yet another story.

[Ryan M.]

Context indeed....

 

Hi Ryan,

 

I expect you are correct. Context Rules !

 

I have personally never encountered anyone using a single step option other than the occasional "Sanitizer-only" solution which is yet another story.