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Posted 09 September 2021 - 02:44 PM

Hi all, 

 

Can alcohol sanitiser be used in production areas?

 

 



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 02:49 PM

Depending on the purposes you use it for: hand sanitizing, surface, etc?



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 02:51 PM

Depending on the purposes you use it for: hand sanitizing, surface, etc?

 

hand sanitising - there is multiple 500ml bottles around site. (including in production areas) 



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 02:56 PM

I think it's safe - as soon as your workers don't spray it over the products to avoid contamination.



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 09:14 PM

I don't understand hand sanitizer. Don't most standards specify that you have to wash your hands before using sanitizer otherwise it's useless? I mean I disagree with that but sanitizer on the floor certainly doesn't satisfy any regulation or standard clause I've heard of.



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Posted 10 September 2021 - 01:56 AM

I don't understand hand sanitizer. Don't most standards specify that you have to wash your hands before using sanitizer otherwise it's useless? I mean I disagree with that but sanitizer on the floor certainly doesn't satisfy any regulation or standard clause I've heard of.

 

Hi john.

 

The FDA Food Code agrees with you for initial hand cleaning although other opinions do exist eg - 

 

https://www.extensio...ood-handlers-do

https://www.initial....hand-sanitiser/

https://extension.um...not-replacement

 

Attached File  handwashfs.pdf   165KB   11 downloads

 

Personally have never encountered alcohol dispensers in food production areas.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 07:35 AM

I don't understand hand sanitizer. Don't most standards specify that you have to wash your hands before using sanitizer otherwise it's useless? I mean I disagree with that but sanitizer on the floor certainly doesn't satisfy any regulation or standard clause I've heard of.

 

Hi, the Q isn't regarding whether alcohol sanitiser satisfies a clause or is effective in replacing hand washing, it is regarding the safety of the product around food. There is a standard hand washing procedure in place and I have no concerns over this, I am concerned that alcohol sanitiser is not safe to be around food. 



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Posted 10 September 2021 - 09:40 AM

Hi, the Q isn't regarding whether alcohol sanitiser satisfies a clause or is effective in replacing hand washing, it is regarding the safety of the product around food. There is a standard hand washing procedure in place and I have no concerns over this, I am concerned that alcohol sanitiser is not safe to be around food. 

 

Hi FSA,

 

There are actually a variety of chemical mixes potentially involved.

The popular blue version would certainly seem a little questionable from a safety POV. Methyl alcohol is also toxic IIRC.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 01:00 PM

If they are gloved hands, that Diversey's SU393 can be used safely around food. It can also be used to sanitize hand tools throughout the production day.

 

The risk of alcohol hand sanitizer is going to be exceedingly low (as an over spray or from direct hand to product contact) The reason alcohol sanitizer is so popular is it's ability to dry quickly

 

I'd curious to know why it's everywhere around the plant---is this a covid related reason?


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 03:58 PM

Hi, the Q isn't regarding whether alcohol sanitiser satisfies a clause or is effective in replacing hand washing, it is regarding the safety of the product around food. There is a standard hand washing procedure in place and I have no concerns over this, I am concerned that alcohol sanitiser is not safe to be around food. 

 

Hi FSA,

 

One direct (US) answer to yr (safety) hand sanitizer query is provided by the NSF Rating, eg -

 

https://nelsonjameso...e/hand-hygiene/

 

Attached File  NSF rated handwashing-hand sanitizing products.pdf   547.5KB   9 downloads


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Posted 11 September 2021 - 07:28 AM

Alcohol based sanitisers can be used in production areas. They shall be in dispensers so that only few drops are used at a time.

 

Non-alcohol based sanitisers like chlorine water are used way back. But chlorine levels keeps dipping in solution over the time. 

 

If Halal audit / certification is there, auditors may object for alcohol sanitiser usage in processing halls.   



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Posted 07 June 2022 - 09:31 PM

Alcohol based sanitisers can be used in production areas. They shall be in dispensers so that only few drops are used at a time.

 

Non-alcohol based sanitisers like chlorine water are used way back. But chlorine levels keeps dipping in solution over the time. 

 

If Halal audit / certification is there, auditors may object for alcohol sanitiser usage in processing halls.   

 

I second this for the halal side. We had an inspector request that we update all our sanitation procedures to include in specific evaporation allowances to ensure there were no chances of contamination.





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