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Best Answer , 05 June 2023 - 09:45 AM

Hi weaam,

 

Relevant answers may depend on your specific food-related activity/water source/water storage-distribution ??

 

BRC's Guidance is extremely useful but afaik not  an auditable contribution. Specific Local Regulatory Requirements should  invariably over-ride other options from a Legislative POV. (Local requirements  may occasionally already be based on external references).

 

The above however does not exclude the possibility of other commercial-driven requirements, eg factors dictated by access  of product into the EC Community.

For example, assuming a lack of routine official data, IMEX of export into EC from a "3rd World" origin, it may be acceptable to BRC to  (a) closely follow the (relatively few) micro requirements of 98/83/EC (unrevised ?), (b) make a semi-random selection from 98/.etc's  list of physical items, © (assuming no special features like lead pipes) data for the group of chemical elements known as "Heavy Metals". Results for (a-c) should comply with the limits in 98/etc.

 

One readily available, probably free source of info. if unsure is to ask the audit company whom you intend to use for the BRC audit.. They are obliged to know Legislative aspects. :smile:


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Posted 03 June 2023 - 10:52 AM

Hello,

In the last audit for BRC issue 6 our company got a minor non-conformity regarding the water testing. The auditor stated that the water used in the plant for hand washing and cleaning purpose only, and that the testing report shown is just conforming five parameters which are biological but not consider all the chemical and physical parameters.

What should we do to close this non-conformity should we follow the national standard which is for potable water and do all the chemical and physical tests (50 parameters)? Or is there another standard that we can follow? 

Thank you in advance, 



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Posted 05 June 2023 - 03:30 AM

based on CAR, follow your proposed correction and corrective action accepted your auditor



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Posted 05 June 2023 - 06:19 AM

Hi weaam,

 

To comply with minimum requirements you should be getting water analysis reports at least annually. These can be from your water supplier, if you have one. If have your own supply then you need to be arranging the analysis yourself. Sites normally also do routine water sampling for example TVC, Enteros, pH, turbidity, Chlorine (if chlorinated), taste etc. Site samples should include samples of water at point of use.

 

BRCGS Global Standard for Food Safety Issue 9 covers water testing in Clause 4.5.1:

All water (including ice and steam) used as a raw material in the manufacture of processed food, the preparation of product, hand-washing or equipment or plant cleaning shall be supplied in sufficient quantity, be potable at point of use, be fit for purpose and pose no risk of contamination according to applicable legislation.

Where water is stored and handled on site (e.g. in storage or holding tanks), these shall be managed to minimise food safety risks.

The microbiological and chemical quality of water shall be analysed as required by legislation or at least annually. The sampling points, scope of the test and frequency of analysis shall be based on risk, taking into account the source of the water, on-site storage and distribution facilities, previous sample history and usage.

 

BRCGS Guidance Clause 4.5.1:

The frequency of water analysis must be based on risk, including:

• legislative requirements for testing

• historical information

• the source of the water (e.g. mains supply or bore-hole)

• specific site concerns (e.g. duration of water storage or the use of lead pipes)

• treatments given to the water

• its usage.

The water is expected to comply with national legislation (e.g. EU directive 98/83/EC and its subsequent amendments) or, in the absence of this, with World Health Organization (WHO) standards for drinking water. The scope of testing completed by the site should be based on risk; for example:

• if the site has lead pipes, then tests should include the presence and concentration of lead

• if historical or published information indicates that the supply in the region has high levels of nitrate, then tests should incorporate this information.

Water quality tests must be completed at least annually and be based on a risk assessment. If the water is supplied by a water supply company, a chemical analysis from the water company will suffice for the chemical requirements, unless there are other risks identified in the delivery system (e.g. lead pipes). Alternatively, testing should be carried out at the site to ensure that the water is tested and approved at the point of use. Where water is extracted from bore-holes and/or sites have on-site treatment facilities, additional checks will be required to ensure that the water is not contaminated either at the bore-hole or during treatment and that the treatment remains effective. The water should be sampled at appropriate points of use and this should be documented in a sampling plan (see clause 4.5.2).

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony


Edited by Tony-C, 05 June 2023 - 06:20 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2023 - 06:48 AM

Hi Weeam,

Water shall comply to the standard IS 10500:2012 including the physical, chemical, toxic substance, pesticide residues  & Microbiological parameters. The test shall be done after every six months.



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Posted 05 June 2023 - 09:45 AM   Best Answer

Hi weaam,

 

Relevant answers may depend on your specific food-related activity/water source/water storage-distribution ??

 

BRC's Guidance is extremely useful but afaik not  an auditable contribution. Specific Local Regulatory Requirements should  invariably over-ride other options from a Legislative POV. (Local requirements  may occasionally already be based on external references).

 

The above however does not exclude the possibility of other commercial-driven requirements, eg factors dictated by access  of product into the EC Community.

For example, assuming a lack of routine official data, IMEX of export into EC from a "3rd World" origin, it may be acceptable to BRC to  (a) closely follow the (relatively few) micro requirements of 98/83/EC (unrevised ?), (b) make a semi-random selection from 98/.etc's  list of physical items, © (assuming no special features like lead pipes) data for the group of chemical elements known as "Heavy Metals". Results for (a-c) should comply with the limits in 98/etc.

 

One readily available, probably free source of info. if unsure is to ask the audit company whom you intend to use for the BRC audit.. They are obliged to know Legislative aspects. :smile:


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


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Posted 05 June 2023 - 11:14 AM

Does your government conduct regular water test? If yes. providing a copy of that test will satisfy the requirements. 

 

Otherwise, you may need at least the following:

 

- Biological tests: E. coli, total coliforms, fecal coliforms, enterococci
- Chemical tests: pH, dissolved oxygen, nitrate, phosphate, chlorine
- Physical tests: turbidity, temperature, conductivity, color

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Edited by Sayed M Naim Khalid, 05 June 2023 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2023 - 12:06 PM

 

Does your government conduct regular water test? If yes. providing a copy of that test will satisfy the requirements. 

 

Otherwise, you may need at least the following:

 

- Biological tests: E. coli, total coliforms, fecal coliforms, enterococci
- Chemical tests: pH, dissolved oxygen, nitrate, phosphate, chlorine
- Physical tests: turbidity, temperature, conductivity, color

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H SMNK,

 

Thks for input but where does yr list originate from ?


Kind Regards,

 

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Posted 08 June 2023 - 09:24 AM

 

Does your government conduct regular water test? If yes. providing a copy of that test will satisfy the requirements. 

 

Otherwise, you may need at least the following:

 

- Biological tests: E. coli, total coliforms, fecal coliforms, enterococci
- Chemical tests: pH, dissolved oxygen, nitrate, phosphate, chlorine
- Physical tests: turbidity, temperature, conductivity, color

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FSQA Professional 

 

2020.2184 EU adds contaminant testing from pipelines

In addition to the monitoring of the above criteria in 2020.2184 EU in part B, annex 2 contains provisions for group A monitoring and group B verification.





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