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[shookimogh]

Hi Folks,

We are on track of getting IFS-PAC secure certification and implementing procedures. Right now we were able to track from final products to raw materials. but we are not able to do from raw material to final products. We make paper bags ( not direct food contact). can you help me with a system for that?

or if you have any templates. how shall we log inventory. thanks. our audit is in early July. so I'm very stressed. thank you in advance.

 

SM

[Tony-C]

Hi shookimogh,

 

The requirements are to be able to trace both ways and that is normal:

4.18.2* The traceability system, including mass balance, shall be tested at least once within a 12-month period or whenever significant changes occur. The test samples shall reflect the complexity of the company’s product range. The test records shall demonstrate upstream and downstream traceability (from delivered products to raw materials, and vice versa).

 

Why aren’t you able to track from raw material to final products? Do you mean that you don’t log the intake, storage and use of raw materials by batch?

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony

[shookimogh]

Hi Tony, sorry for the late reply, that's exactly what I mean. there is no inventory system to log the batches. our purchasing only knows how many of each material we have in total. there is no lot code logging system in place. Do you have any suggestion for me of how to log or how to get our warehouse to log? That's why I'm looking for a warehouse template. please let me know your thoughts.

thank you, SM

Hi shookimogh,

 

The requirements are to be able to trace both ways and that is normal:

4.18.2* The traceability system, including mass balance, shall be tested at least once within a 12-month period or whenever significant changes occur. The test samples shall reflect the complexity of the company’s product range. The test records shall demonstrate upstream and downstream traceability (from delivered products to raw materials, and vice versa).

 

Why aren’t you able to track from raw material to final products? Do you mean that you don’t log the intake, storage and use of raw materials by batch?

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony

[MDaleDDF]

Yikes.   An ERP would make life wayyyy easier for you.   If not, you'll be doing it by hand.   They used to do it by hand where I work, and it's tough.   You're literally walking around with a notebook and a roll of tape and writing down lots, labeling pallets, tracking what is used where, etc.   And there's many a slip between the cup and the lip possible doing it that way.   There's not really a template for it, just gotta write everything down and track it all.   Nightmare imho.

 

I'd get an ERP in your place if possible.  

[GMO]

Yeah.... this has been a pretty basic requirement of most legislatures for a while, not just 3rd party audits. You need to record batch information and track that through your process. Agree, if it's not an ERP, it's manual.