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Posted 09 September 2026 - 09:25 AM

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We are in the dehydrated onion business. After dehydration, flakes are ground into powder. Powder received from storage or from an online line follows this flow: Magnet (PRP)→ Metal detection (OPRP) → Grinding → Blending → Sieving (CCP) → Weighing → Packing → Store → Dispatch (no line magnet at dispatch).

Until now we have classified sieve integrity as a CCP, checked every two hours. However, during a recent discussion, an auditor raised the point that a CCP's action criteria must be measurable, not merely observable—if it is only observable, it cannot be defined as a CCP.


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Posted 09 September 2026 - 01:50 PM

Hi Jay,

 

The auditor seems to have been a bit pedantic.

 

You should have gone with it is a combination of control measures, first of all the sieve is in place (OPRP) and then the sieve is say 3mm (CCP). So the sieve is removing foreign objects more than 3mm in size.

 

You can work out the action criterion and critical limits for yourself I presume.

 

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Posted 09 September 2026 - 06:34 PM

The difference between measurable and observable are poor words to use or at least easily confused. I would prefer quantitative and qualitative. They're not vastly different in meaning but I think are treated differently. 

 

Is there a defined size which your sieve will and will not pass? Yes, of course there is. Therefore it is not qualitative. It is not merely "observable" but it is quantitative. The sieve size you have chosen will only let through contaminants of certain dimensions. Of course it is theoretically possible that thin wires could pass through but the same is true for a metal detector and I don't see auditors arguing there. Also in practice, wires tend to get caught on sieves. If you really wanted to, you could get test pieces to prove your sieve was capable of rejecting that size. Which of course you wouldn't because that would be stupid as a visual inspection of sieve integrity proves it's capable of working. Just because you're checking the CCP in a different way to a metal detector, doesn't make it not a CCP. Just means your eyes can see a mesh but can't see a magnetic field (I know there's more to it than just checking the field but you get my point.)

 

What would count as "observable" or qualitative? Things like vision systems for me, colour changes. Where it all starts getting a bit more vague. Where there is a grey area. 

 

So to my mind, the auditor has misinterpreted the language and tried to be a smart ass. I do not suggest you put that in your CAPA response. Much as it's tempting. I also hate auditors telling people that something should or shouldn't be a CCP, especially when they're only suggesting something might be an oPRP instead. I mean seriously, what food safety risk is going to be changed by that observation by the auditor? Is it the square root of absolutely nothing? In the meantime do you fancy actually trying to find something which can be helpful to us not trying to catch us out on a technicality?


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Posted 09 September 2026 - 06:44 PM

If you want to push back... then here is a resource you can. If the auditor thinks they know more than FAO, (hey I don't agree with them on everything I'm not going to lie), then they can do so, but I think this backs you up anyway. 

 

FAO - Critical Limits

 

"Critical limits establish whether a critical control point (CCP) is in control, and can, therefore, be used to separate acceptable products from unacceptable ones. Critical limits should be measurable or observable and typically use minimum and/or maximum values or critical parameters, such as temperature, time, moisture level, pH, aw, conveyor belt speed, etc."

 

I still think it's measurable anyway but I think this could help in your audit response.


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Posted 10 September 2026 - 01:38 PM

...should...

 

If you want to push back... then here is a resource you can. If the auditor thinks they know more than FAO, (hey I don't agree with them on everything I'm not going to lie), then they can do so, but I think this backs you up anyway. 

 

FAO - Critical Limits

 

"Critical limits establish whether a critical control point (CCP) is in control, and can, therefore, be used to separate acceptable products from unacceptable ones. Critical limits should be measurable or observable and typically use minimum and/or maximum values or critical parameters, such as temperature, time, moisture level, pH, aw, conveyor belt speed, etc."

 

I still think it's measurable anyway but I think this could help in your audit response.


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Posted 10 September 2026 - 03:12 PM

...should...

 

Good point. Bad wording from FAO.


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