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Posted 09 November 2006 - 08:21 PM

Hi there, Having recentley taken delivery of the ISO 22000 standard I'm thinking of buying the guidance standard, do you think it is worthwhile, will it help me understand the requirements better? Is it like ISO 9004 is for ISO 9001, very useful.

Tks,
David



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Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:47 AM

Hi there, Having recentley taken delivery of the ISO 22000 standard I'm thinking of buying the guidance standard, do you think it is worthwhile, will it help me understand the requirements better? Is it like ISO 9004 is for ISO 9001, very useful.

Tks,
David


Hi David,
I bought the guidance standard. In my opinion it is not useful as 9004. Most of sections are "No guidance is given". Communication, Hazard assesment and Section 8 have good explanation. But yes it would be nice to have.

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 09:26 AM

Hi there, Having recentley taken delivery of the ISO 22000 standard I'm thinking of buying the guidance standard, do you think it is worthwhile, will it help me understand the requirements better? Is it like ISO 9004 is for ISO 9001, very useful.

Tks,
David


ISO 9004:2000 is not a guide for ISO 9001:2000!!! It is beyond the generic standard, taking you further up towards BEM
Yes, I think 22004 is a good guide
Shaul


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Posted 10 November 2006 - 03:07 PM

ISO 9004:2000 is not a guide for ISO 9001:2000!!! It is beyond the generic standard, taking you further up towards BEM
Yes, I think 22004 is a good guide
Shaul


Yep... Shaul I think you are right...

I'm only missing a "OPRP vs. PCC" better explanation aren't u? ;)


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Posted 12 November 2006 - 04:15 PM

ISO 9004:2000 is not a guide for ISO 9001:2000!!! It is beyond the generic standard, taking you further up towards BEM
Yes, I think 22004 is a good guide
Shaul

OK but for me it gives practical ways on how you can achieve ISO 9001 also, if that is all you should want. I found it to be an invaluable guide. :biggrin:

Tks for all of the responses, well should I buy or am I goin to be disappointed? :thumbdown:

David


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Posted 12 November 2006 - 09:24 PM

OK but for me it gives practical ways on how you can achieve ISO 9001 also, if that is all you should want. I found it to be an invaluable guide. :biggrin:

Tks for all of the responses, well should I buy or am I goin to be disappointed? :thumbdown:

David


It's all the advice there is at the moment, well except for these forums. If you are struggling to understand a particular requirement of ISO 22000 then ask a question on here. Much more personal and free too. :biggrin:

Welcome to the forums David. :welcome:

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 02:03 PM

Hi there, Having recentley taken delivery of the ISO 22000 standard I'm thinking of buying the guidance standard, do you think it is worthwhile, will it help me understand the requirements better? Is it like ISO 9004 is for ISO 9001, very useful.

Tks,
David



Hi David,

I do have a copy of the ISO22004 and I was quite frankly dissapointed. It does have some useful hints but if you're looking for a document of the same quality as ISO9004 then I wouldn't waste your money.

I think you'll find this forum should help with most queries (just don't forget to contribute as well! :welcome: )

James Gibb

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 10:51 AM

Hi David,

I do have a copy of the ISO22004 and I was quite frankly dissapointed. It does have some useful hints but if you're looking for a document of the same quality as ISO9004 then I wouldn't waste your money.

I think you'll find this forum should help with most queries (just don't forget to contribute as well! :welcome: )

James Gibb

Tks for the feedback, it was well worth asking you guys as I will now not buy the guidance. In fact after having a quick scan of 22k when I first got it I quickly put it down till after Xmas, I think. Have a good one!!! :yay:

David





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