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Posted 05 March 2007 - 05:52 AM

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I need urgently information about Berries HACCP Plan, in all plan there are 3 CCP, pesticide residue, metal detector and dispatched temperature, is this correct???, for raspberry is adequate rewiew foreign material??? (not washing fruit), for blueberrries is correct pesticide residue if GAP is used??

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 09:44 PM

Hi!

I need urgently information about Berries HACCP Plan, in all plan there are 3 CCP, pesticide residue, metal detector and dispatched temperature, is this correct???, for raspberry is adequate rewiew foreign material??? (not washing fruit), for blueberrries is correct pesticide residue if GAP is used??

thanks in advance,

Tasi. :helpplease:

Can anyone (in)validate Tasi's HACCP plan? Any berry experts out there? :smile:

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 10:53 AM

Dear tasi:

Frozen berries ready for consumption without further 'process/treatment'?

Besides pesticides, how about heavy metal contaminant, microbiological aspect, frozen temperature control (during storage at your plant)??


Any other comment from the expert?


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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:24 AM

Dear Tasi.

As per previous post, it helps to know the process.
Can try this ref, which is for frozen peas, there are some obvious differences however the basic flow may well be similar (process page was under developmnent when I looked but you can see the basics from the other pages) -

http://www.inspectio...frveglege.shtml

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:03 AM

To me the CCP for Frozen raspberry process can be: CCP 1 :raw material control(chemical risk, pestiide,heavymetal,etc.), CCP 2(optional) : washing step (chlorine added to control the microbiological risk), CCP3 :metal detector, CCP 4: storage temperature<-18 C, CCP 5(optional) : depactching temperature. different HACCP plans could be applied only after the investigation.



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Posted 16 March 2007 - 10:22 PM

Was this information helpful Tasi; it would be nice to hear some feedback.

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 06:47 AM

Hi
We use to freeze raspberries some years ago.
In my opinion CCPs could be:
CCP 1 Washing and/or sanitizing step
CCP 2 Metal detector

Although maybe CCP1 could be a OPRP. How would you establish and validate a CL?

I do not think other CCPs suggested are really CCPs, although they are certainly very very important.
It is very difficult to assure safety in raw materials through CCPs; you need GAPs and other OPRPs.

Also, probably there is no hazard if storage or shipping temperature is somewhat above -18°C, don't you think?

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 09:51 PM

Hi
We use to freeze raspberries some years ago.
In my opinion CCPs could be:
CCP 1 Washing and/or sanitizing step
CCP 2 Metal detector

Although maybe CCP1 could be a OPRP. How would you establish and validate a CL?

I do not think other CCPs suggested are really CCPs, although they are certainly very very important.
It is very difficult to assure safety in raw materials through CCPs; you need GAPs and other OPRPs.

Also, probably there is no hazard if storage or shipping temperature is somewhat above -18°C, don't you think?

kind regards,
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Posted 26 March 2007 - 04:48 AM

HI.

Really thanks for reply Simon, Charles, Francis and all...

In my recent analysis my CCP are:

PCC1: Pesticide Residue, in my company all raw material is from external orchard, dont have absolute control about yours agrochemical plans or similar. We thinking to ask a Conformity Certificate for assure adequate pesticide application.

PCC2: Washing, chlorine level, in specific for blueberries and blackberries.

PCC3: metal detector of course, in really for all products would be PCC.

PCC4: Distpach temperature is in study, I think that minimum temperature must be 4ºC (like pcc) but in really operational limit is :rolleyes:

Tasi


Edited by tasi, 26 March 2007 - 05:07 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2007 - 07:13 AM

Dear Tasi,

Can add two more related items you may find useful. Some similarities to yr topic came up in an earlier thread on vegetables from Max. One link in this related to process safety issues and had some stuff on HACCP of which I extract this bit. The GAP comment seems to agree with yr assessment though I don’t personally see why this route cannot be, for example, xreferenced within an overall HACCP Plan.
“Application of HACCP: When considering applying these principles to a farm operation, one can immediately see the difficulty in controlling naturally-occurring hazards. For example, bird droppings in an orchard may potentially represent a hazard from the spread of E. coli O157:H7 or Salmonella spp. But, it may not be a CCP because there is no way, by controlling a process, to prevent that hazard. Furthermore, there is no way to quantify and measure bird droppings to know if they are within critical limits. This would also be true of Clostridium botulinum spores in soil. Though they may represent a potential hazard, it would not be appropriate to establish soil as a CCP because it is not practical to measure the spores in soil or to control them through any known process. In fact, most agricultural hazards cannot, and should not, be prevented through HACCP. Instead, the use of GAP’s has been identified by the FDA and the produce industry as a more appropriate way to address these hazards.
Another example is a cold storage room in a packinghouse where condensed water from refrigeration coils may contain the bacterium Listeria monocytogenes and could drip on the product. This is certainly a significant hazard, but is it a CCP? It would not be practical to develop a process to prevent water from dripping or to quantify and monitor water dripping from refrigeration coils. A more appropriate way to deal with this hazard is through SSOP’s. Refrigeration coils and drip pans should be cleaned and sanitized according to a predetermined schedule to prevent the growth of L. monocytogenes in condensate. In this way the hazard is prevented more effectively and more simply than by designating a CCP.
There is no minimum or maximum number of CCP’s in any given operation. What is important, is that all potential hazards be addressed through prerequisite programs or through HACCP. Those hazards that can be controlled or minimized through quantitative control of a process may be designated CCP’s and included in a HACCP program. Fresh-cut processors may have as few as two CCP’s in an adequate HACCP plan.”

http://usna.usda.gov...4foodsafety.pdf.

(link is in forum thread - http://www.ifsqn.com...wtopic=4695&hl= )

You may also find this (very) up-to-date ref. interesting if not already seen, credit to Newsgirl on this forum. (From memory,it still seems to avoid direct use of HACCP though).
• Guidance for Industry: Guide to Minimize Food Safety Hazards for Fresh-Cut Fruits and Vegetables; Availability; Comment Request
• Federal Register Notice of Availability; Request for Comments
http://www.cfsan.fda...rd/fpprod6.html

(this forum link - http://www.ifsqn.com...?showtopic=6697 )

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 08:11 PM

Dear Tasi,

Can add two more related items you may find useful. Some similarities to yr topic came up in an earlier thread on vegetables from Max. One link in this related to process safety issues and had some stuff on HACCP of which I extract this bit. The GAP comment seems to agree with yr assessment though I don’t personally see why this route cannot be, for example, xreferenced within an overall HACCP Plan.
“Application of HACCP: When considering applying these principles to a farm operation, one can immediately see the difficulty in controlling naturally-occurring hazards. For example, bird droppings in an orchard may potentially represent a hazard from the spread of E. coli O157:H7 or Salmonella spp. But, it may not be a CCP because there is no way, by controlling a process, to prevent that hazard. Furthermore, there is no way to quantify and measure bird droppings to know if they are within critical limits. This would also be true of Clostridium botulinum spores in soil. Though they may represent a potential hazard, it would not be appropriate to establish soil as a CCP because it is not practical to measure the spores in soil or to control them through any known process. In fact, most agricultural hazards cannot, and should not, be prevented through HACCP. Instead, the use of GAP’s has been identified by the FDA and the produce industry as a more appropriate way to address these hazards.
Another example is a cold storage room in a packinghouse where condensed water from refrigeration coils may contain the bacterium Listeria monocytogenes and could drip on the product. This is certainly a significant hazard, but is it a CCP? It would not be practical to develop a process to prevent water from dripping or to quantify and monitor water dripping from refrigeration coils. A more appropriate way to deal with this hazard is through SSOP’s. Refrigeration coils and drip pans should be cleaned and sanitized according to a predetermined schedule to prevent the growth of L. monocytogenes in condensate. In this way the hazard is prevented more effectively and more simply than by designating a CCP.
There is no minimum or maximum number of CCP’s in any given operation. What is important, is that all potential hazards be addressed through prerequisite programs or through HACCP. Those hazards that can be controlled or minimized through quantitative control of a process may be designated CCP’s and included in a HACCP program. Fresh-cut processors may have as few as two CCP’s in an adequate HACCP plan.”

http://usna.usda.gov...4foodsafety.pdf.

(link is in forum thread - http://www.ifsqn.com...wtopic=4695&hl= )

You may also find this (very) up-to-date ref. interesting if not already seen, credit to Newsgirl on this forum. (From memory,it still seems to avoid direct use of HACCP though).
• Guidance for Industry: Guide to Minimize Food Safety Hazards for Fresh-Cut Fruits and Vegetables; Availability; Comment Request
• Federal Register Notice of Availability; Request for Comments
http://www.cfsan.fda...rd/fpprod6.html

(this forum link - http://www.ifsqn.com...?showtopic=6697 )

Rgds / Charles.C

Hi Charles, I read all posts, but don't always answer; sometimes it's because I don't understand or simply I don't have anything to add. I just wanted to let you know. :biggrin:

Anyway thanks for the interesting post. What are GAP's? Can you give me an example please.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:39 PM

Dear Simon,

Interesting question.

In this context, I presume GAP = Good Agricultural Practice . (Also as in EurepGAP.) I saw it semi-defined as -

"Good management practices refers to general practices to reduce microbial food safety hazards. The term may include both "good agricultural practices" used in growing, harvesting, sorting, packing, and storage operations and "good manufacturing practices" used in sorting, packing, storage, and transportation operations."

This is later amplified as -

Basic Principles

Use the general recommendations in this guide to develop the most
appropriate good agricultural and management practices for your
operation.
This guidance document is based upon certain basic principles and practices associated with
minimizing microbial food safety hazards from the field through distribution of fresh fruits and
vegetables.
By identifying basic principles of microbial food safety within the realm of growing,
harvesting, packing, and transporting fresh produce, users of this guide will be better prepared to
recognize and address the principal elements known to give rise to microbial food safety concerns.
Principle 1. Prevention of microbial contamination of fresh produce is favored over reliance on
corrective actions once contamination has occurred.
Principle 2. To minimize microbial food safety hazards in fresh produce, growers, packers, or
shippers should use good agricultural and management practices in those areas over which they
have control.
Principle 3. Fresh produce can become microbiologically contaminated at any point along the
farm-to-table food chain. The major source of microbial contamination with fresh produce is
associated with human or animal feces.
Principle 4. Whenever water comes in contact with produce, its source and quality dictates the
potential for contamination. Minimize the potential of microbial contamination from water used
with fresh fruits and vegetables.
Principle 5. Practices using animal manure or municipal biosolid wastes should be managed
closely to minimize the potential for microbial contamination of fresh produce.
Principle 6. Worker hygiene and sanitation practices during production, harvesting, sorting,
packing, and transport play a critical role in minimizing the potential for microbial contamination
of fresh produce.
Principle 7. Follow all applicable local, state, and Federal laws and regulations, or corresponding
or similar laws, regulations, or standards for operators outside the U.S., for agricultural practices.
Principle 8. Accountability at all levels of the agricultural environment (farm, packing facility,
distribution center, and transport operation) is important to a successful food safety program.
There must be qualified personnel and effective monitoring to ensure that all elements of the
program function correctly and to help track produce back through the distribution channels to the producer

( http://www.foodsafet...at/prodguid.pdf )

An EU interpretation is here -

http://www.fao.org/p...iles/Y8704e.htm

(examples in Annex)

It's not really my "field" but seems to me that GAPs overlap HACCP Pre-Requisite Programs (or even potential CCPs possibly) however I saw this comment in another link which I find confusing -

"31. If a grower implements FDA's "Guide to Minimize Microbial Food Safety Hazards for Fresh Fruits and Vegetables," also referred to as FDA's Good Agricultural Practices (GAP) guidance document, is it considered a HACCP control measure?

No. However, juice processors are encouraged to work with growers of the produce they use to produce juice to evaluate and modify agricultural practices consistent with FDA's GAP guidance."
( http://vm.cfsan.fda....mm/juiceqa.html )

Maybe any fruit or vegetable people here know more on this ??

Rgds / Charles.C

added - after bit more reading, looks like GAP is running parallel to HACCP although approving the HACCP principle (??). One set of European GAP standards is from EUREPGAP and available as (free) dwl from their site, eg -

http://www.eurepgap....h/news/317.html

It's slightly old but various systems, BRC, EUREGAP, HACCP are compared here (Partic. the 1st paper)

http://www.apo-tokyo...apers_HACCP.pdf.

In UK, the "Assured Produce Scheme" was also mentioned in this subject area.

added (2) apologies to Narongchai!, I forgot to mention his running thread on EUREPGAP -

http://www.ifsqn.com...amp;#entry15115

added (3) some idea of the inter-relationships of relevant standards can be seen in these chunks extracted from 2nd paper in penultimate link above ( this is circa 2002, no I22k yet) -

"Clients in Europe expect products to come from factories, which have a western quality
management system in place. No horticultural products will be accepted from farms, which
do not follow the principles of EUREP GAP, and packinghouses, which are not HACCPcertified.
As far as food safety is concerned they have the legal support, since the EU will
make HACCP mandatory for all food handlers and processors by January 2004 (EU Directive
00/43, 2000). This also applies to facilities outside of Europe, if products are destined for a
member state of the EU.


Table 1. Quality Management Systems and Areas of Application

(System-Strategic Purpose-Target Sector)
GAP (EUREP)-Farm management including principles of integrated production-Primary agriculture
ISO 9000-Continuity of production and quality-Agriculture industry and service
ISO 14000-Contribution to global sustainability-Agriculture industry and service
HACCP-Food safety-Food industry
BRC-Food safety, document control andTraceability-Food processing and food handlers
SQF-Food safety quality improvement-Primary and secondary agriculture
SCMa-Harmonization in supply chain-Supply chain of goods
--
ECRb-Time efficiency-Retailers and suppliers

Notes: a Supply Chain Management; and b Efficient Consumer Response – a system to
manage faster supply; more frequently and in smaller units.


(The above paper also has an excellent discussion with many practical comments of the significance of pre-requisites in tthe HACCP system for a fruit packing set-up )


Edited by Charles.C, 30 March 2007 - 07:51 AM.

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 08:02 PM

Thanks for the detailed explanation of GAP Charles, apologies for not reverting sooner, but as you know I've been taking a little break. :2cool:

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