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[Charles Chew]

Hi,

Just throwing in a thought. for discussion. Say, in a huge company (i.e. 500 workers with 10 massive process lines), is it advisable to have two HACCP Team Leaders?

If we do, how can we integrate communications, actions and so forth.

Regards
Charles Chew

[Charles Chew]

Okay, the scenario concerns a huge facility and are divided into two separate HUGE buildings but on the same plot of land (this is an important issue). Company manufactures its own goods but acts as a Central Purchaser as well.

One section makes the product (WET GOODS) and sent to store/warehousing division which collects other products as well (DRY GOODS).

Do you think we should have two HACCP TEAMS within ONE HACCP SYSTEM?

CHarles CHew

Edited by charleschew, 17 September 2004 - 01:43 PM.

[Simon]

Yes. But with one HACCP Leader. How does that sound?

Regards,
Simon

[Charles Chew]

Why one Leader? Can we have two "drivers" afterall they are separate teams and if so, how do we meet the requirements of the system when integrating for reports.

It is a huge decision but the decision will have impact on the team's responsibilities. On the other side of things, say we have George Bush as President (SPONSOR). It does not stop the system from having Governors for their states. Can we adopt the same line of thoughts?

Charles CHew

[Simon]

Why one Leader? Can we have two "drivers" afterall they are separate teams and if so, how do we meet the requirements of the system when integrating for reports.

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When I say one I'd have one leader, I would still have an overall leader / driver for each individual HACCP team to manage the day-to-day HACCP Programme in the workplace. The HACCP chiefs role would be more of a facilitator, ensuring requirements are met, best practice is shared and improvements are made etc.

Regards,
Simon

[Charles Chew]

Interesting proposal. Would be good if anyone with experience having two HACCP Teams with One Sponsor and One Leader to share some experience with us.

I have not been involved on such arrangements before so it would be interesting to share some notes here.

Charles CHew

[foodsafetyboy]

Okay, the scenario concerns a huge facility and are divided into two separate HUGE buildings but on the same plot of land (this is an important issue). Company manufactures its own goods but acts as a Central Purchaser as well.

One section makes the product (WET GOODS) and sent to store/warehousing division which collects other products as well (DRY GOODS).

Do you think we should have two HACCP TEAMS within ONE HACCP SYSTEM?

CHarles CHew

I'll agree with Simon's comment. You can have two separate HACCP teams but only one HACCP team leader. You just have to ensure the team leader has strong knowledge of the processes and extensive experience on same.

Regards,
FSB

[RMAV]

I'll agree with Simon's comment. You can have two separate HACCP teams but only one HACCP team leader. You just have to ensure the team leader has strong knowledge of the processes and extensive experience on same.

Regards,
FSB

I agree with Simon as well, albeit 8 years later. ;-)

Mr. Chew,
Now that it is 8 years later, what did you implement and how did it work?

[GMO]

It depends.

I will give you some examples. I have worked in a HUGE factory (2000 employees with approx 10 sub factories). Each sub factory was different to the others. So, there were probably 4 HACCP team leaders in total depending on which plant each Technical person had. That, in my opinion, can work.

I have also worked in another pretty big factory, (1000 employees, approx 20 lines), where there was one HACCP team leader, me. That's because the lines had similarities in process, all the processes were basically the same to some degree so it made sense to have one, generic HACCP plan.

So either can work, it depends on what the processes are but if the processes are similar then why duplicate the effort? If the processes are measurably different, then yes, that makes sense.