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Posted 17 January 2008 - 09:54 AM

Hello,

Can anyone please ofeer advice / guidance about their experience of combining ISO 22000 & ISO 9001:200 standards into an Integrated Management System.

I have looked at materials about PAS 99, but would like to acquire more practical understanding and examples, particularly from anyone who is going, or has gone through, the process of IMS development and installation.



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Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:38 PM

Mr Barry Evans from Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia with an avatar of a silhouetted Winston Churchill making a very good attempt at a bunny rabbit shadow puppet. And yet an apparently serious question. I am totally and utterly perplexed. ;)

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:30 PM

Mr Barry Evans from Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia with an avatar of a silhouetted Winston Churchill making a very good attempt at a bunny rabbit shadow puppet. And yet an apparently serious question. I am totally and utterly perplexed. ;)

Can anyone help Barry out?

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Simon, Simon, Simon...oh simple Simon. :oops: Despite my crass comments Barry took the time to email me yesterday to tell me about his fascinating life and the food safety challenges they face in Mongolia.

Please can somebody help Barry with his query on integrating ISO 9001 and ISO 22000.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 09:24 PM

Hello,

First, I need to apologise for my bad English... I´m Portuguese, but I have read some informations here that have been very useful for me, so I think that it's possible someone here help me...

I work in a food industry that have a quality system not certified, but aligned with Iso 9001. Apart of this, we are BRC certified and have a HACCP Plan.

We are now try to integrated the both systems (Iso 9001 & Iso 22000), and accomplish the requists of new BRC Standars.

We are now review the quality manual and start to do a "Quality and food Safety manual".

In the quality manual (iso 9001) we had the processes (Contarct review, internal audit, purchasing,..) and a scheme with the processes interaction.
I have read in a document that we can integrate the HACCP as a process.

My doubt is:
Every process have a flow that describe all the steps and with the inputs and outputs (requisite of 90001). I don´t know how can I describe the HACCP as a process... Because is not the process of the production.

Anyone have an idea??

Many thanks, Awaiting for your coments

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Filipa



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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:51 AM

Hello Filipa

I my opinion, HACCP can not be addressed as a process. Other different thing is, you must apply the HACCP system principles on your " production process".

Any other comment??

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 08:22 PM

Hello Esther,

many thanks for tour comment.

I'm working in combined "Quality and Safety food Manual", and I had some doubts about the structure of this manual. I prefer to not integrate the HACCP in the manual, and do a reference of the HACCP in the Manual. :dunno:

Anyone have a structure or an example of an integrated Manual??

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 09:07 PM

Dear filipa,

Here are some related files to yr query. They come from another thread "somewhere" on this forum :smile:. Note that these are 9000/haccp oriented, not 22000. Regarding the latter, perhaps you should consider the related comment/s from CharlesChew in another current ISO22000 thread.
( http://www.ifsqn.com...?showtopic=9679 )

Attached File  HACCP___ISO_9000.pdf   248.52KB   375 downloads

Attached File  iso_9000_compared_haccp_peters.pdf   38.76KB   287 downloads

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 10:22 PM

Hello Charlie,

Many thanks for your reply.
The documents help me.

Anyone have an example of a Food Safety and Quality Manual, or the Index of one?

I need only a help of how it will be structured.

Many thanks,
Filipa



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Posted 17 May 2008 - 05:06 AM

HI,

As per the requireemnt fo ISO 22000 standard food safety manual is not mandatory. I think when integrating ISO 9001 & ISO 22000 standards only Quality Manual is required. Amend the Quality Mnaul to meet the ISO 22000 requireemnts.

include the food safety policy requirements in the Quality Policy. Amend the management review meeting inputs to meet the ISO 22000 std. etc.

Hope this will help you

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 09:00 AM

I think IMO, you should first firmly determine BEFORE any integration of systems were to take place, identify which standard shall be the leading reference standard.

If FSMS ISO 22000 does not require a manual then I see no reason why you should amend the QMS Manual to fit in. But if ISO 22K is the leading reference standard, do you still need to prepare a manual?


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Posted 17 May 2008 - 08:48 PM

Hello,

many thanks for your help.

I have been in a ISO 22000 training, and I know that the quality manual for it standard is not mandotory, but I think that helps to systematize.

Perhaps I will use the same strucuture that I have in the quality manual, introducing food safety aspects. I have already change the "quality policy" to "quality and food safety policy".

Filipa



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Posted 27 May 2008 - 09:03 AM

Hi Barrie

At present i am engaged in a project similar to that. i am now combining 9001:2000 manual and 22000: 2005 manual to gether. you can use the corss reference table printed on the back page of 22000 standard. that will make your job easy. if you need a cross reference table i can publish it on this forum.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 09:25 AM

If you need a cross reference table i can publish it on this forum.

I think you will be OK to publish the cross reference table. It's only a very small part of the standard.

Welcome to the forums Demming.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 10:54 AM

Hello Demming,

Many thanks for your opinion...
I'm doing the combinated Manual: "Quality and Food safety manual".

Do you have an example of one or a Index?

Only to help me to organise it...

Many thanks,

Filipa



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Posted 27 May 2008 - 11:27 AM

Hi filpa,

attached here is a cross reference table which you can use in combining the ISO 9001 and ISO 22000 manuals. for example 7.3.3 of ISO 9001 talks about design and development output and in 7.6 of ISO 22000 it mentions about establishing HACCP plan. so you can include the reference to your HACCP plan under the 7.3.3. of ISO 9001 manual. you can apply this method to other clauses also using the clear reference tabel i am sending. it is an easy task. you dont need a sample manual. just include the outcome of what is mentioned in iso 22000 under the relevant clause in iso 9001 using the table.
Hope this will be helpful to you

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 12:11 PM

Hello again Demming,

Many thanks for your reply and your help.

I think that I will use this method to accomplishement the both standards!

Regards,
Filipa



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Posted 27 May 2008 - 12:28 PM

HI Filipa,

with this i am sending you another cross reference table which is more accurate and reliable. this was published by an internationally acredited institue. previous one is bit confusing. therefore i suggest that you use this cross reference table which is highly accurate.

if you need any further assistance you can publish on this forum.

Regards

Demming

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 01:33 PM

Hello Demming,

many thanks again...I will analysed the document...

This forum is very interesting and useful.
I have already put some posts here and in BRC forum, and I have received so many interesting help!

I'm doing the combined manual and a general review of our HACCP Plan, according with new BRC Standards..It is so many work to do!!! :rolleyes:



Filipa



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Posted 07 January 2011 - 06:37 PM

Hi Demming, Simon, Filipa,

Ya I m also in the middle of doing the same thing. Would appreciate if you can share with us any helpful informations. This thing has got into my blood.

Isaac

Hi Barrie

At present i am engaged in a project similar to that. i am now combining 9001:2000 manual and 22000: 2005 manual to gether. you can use the corss reference table printed on the back page of 22000 standard. that will make your job easy. if you need a cross reference table i can publish it on this forum.

regards







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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:41 PM

What exactly are you looking for Isax?


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Posted 15 January 2011 - 08:13 PM

Hi Isax,

I have an example Table of Content of Integrated Food Safety-Quality Management System Manual. Hope this is useful.



Integrated Food Safety-Quality Management System Manual

1 Scope
1.1 General
1.2 Implementation Scope
1.3 Profil Perusahaan

2 Normative Reference

3 Terms & Definitions

4 Food Safety-Quality Management System
4.1 General Requirements
4.2 Documentation Requirement
4.2.1 General
4.2.2 Document Control
4.2.3 Record Control

5 Management Responsibility
5.1 Management Commitment
5.2 Food Safety-Quality Policy
5.3 Food Safety-Quality Management System Planning
5.4 Responsibility and Authority
5.5 Quality Management Representatives/Food Safety Team Leader
5.6 External and Internal Communication
5.7 Emergency Preparedness and Response
5.8 Management Review

6 Resource Management
6.1 Provision of Resources
6.2 Human Resources
6.3 Infrastructure
6.4 Work Environment

7 Planning and Realization of Safe Products
7.1 General
7.2 Prerequisite Program (PRP)
7.3 Preliminary Steps to Enable Hazard Analysis
7.4 Hazard Analysis
7.5 Operasional Prerequisite Program (OPRP)
7.6 HACCP Plan
7.7 Updating of Preliminary Information and Documents Specifying PRP and HACCP Plan
7.8 Verification Planning
7.9 Traceability System
7.10 Control of Nonconformity

8 Quality Product Realization
8.1 Customer-Related Process
8.1.1 Determination of Requirements Related to The Product
8.1.2 Review of Requirements Related to The Product
8.1.3 Customer Communication
8.2 Design and Development
8.3 Purchasing
8.4 Production and Service Provision

9 Validation, Verification and Improvement of Food Safety-Quality Management System
9.1 General
9.2 Validation of Control Measure Combinations
9.3 Monitoring and Measurement
9.3.1 Customer Satisfaction
9.3.2 Monitoring and Measurement of Process
9.3.3 Monitoring and Measurement of Product
9.4 Analysis of Data
9.5 Control of Monitoring and Measuring
9.6 Food Safety-Quality Management System Verification
9.6.1 Internal Audit
9.6.2 Evaluation of Individual Verification Results
9.6.3 Analysis of Results of Verification Activities
9.7 Improvement

10 Appendix A. Business Process Mapping
11 Appendix B. Reference Matrix between SOP and ISO 22000 + ISO 9001 Standard
12 Appendix C. Organization Structure
13 Appendix D. etc
13 Appendix E. etc

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 07:27 PM

Thank you for sharing the index table D.R. Tirtasujana.


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 04:49 PM

Hi D.R. Tirtasujana....

do you have an example of the process mapping, to see all the process in general?...
and see how the ISO 9001 process works with ISO 22000 process...or how to intregrate both in one map.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 05:54 PM

Hello,

Can anyone please ofeer advice / guidance about their experience of combining ISO 22000 & ISO 9001:200 standards into an Integrated Management System.

I have looked at materials about PAS 99, but would like to acquire more practical understanding and examples, particularly from anyone who is going, or has gone through, the process of IMS development and installation.



Many thanks,

Barrie Evans

I have attached the presentation of Patsy Brown of Brown & Associates Quality Consulting, INC on integrating ISO 22000 and ISO 9001.

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