Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo

Document vs. Facility Observation in Modules 11 and 12

Share this

  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic
- - - - -

redhotchillipeppers

    Grade - AIFSQN

  • IFSQN Associate
  • 29 posts
  • 1 thanks
1
Neutral

  • Earth
    Earth

Posted 31 May 2018 - 11:00 PM

Quick question:  so I know that Module 2 is basically the document audit stuff (i.e. this encompasses our SQF manual) but for Module 11 and Module 12, is there documentation/write-ups/narratives of the components listed there or are these all observational standards?

 

For example, do I need to write about the premises location, and floors, drains, and waste traps, or does the auditor just visually inspect these aspects in the facility itself and see that all is well (or not well)? 

 

I ask because in the previous code, modules 11 and 12 had some parts that were document components that required documentation or a company policy and then some parts that were the facility audit that just required visual observation, in addition to the document component of Module 2. 

 

So, I'm a little confused. 

 

P.S. To clarify, when I say documentation, I don't mean records of verification activities and such, but more of a company policy document. 



Scampi

    Fellow

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 5,486 posts
  • 1511 thanks
1,550
Excellent

  • Canada
    Canada
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 01 June 2018 - 01:19 PM

I have not made a "policy" for module 11 items as most are covered somewhat in module 2.

 

So obviously you need some sort of monitoring for things like floor drains (water towards them) but no an actual policy

 

Hope that helps


Please stop referring to me as Sir/sirs


Hoosiersmoker

    Grade - PIFSQN

  • IFSQN Principal
  • 684 posts
  • 228 thanks
122
Excellent

  • United States
    United States

Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:35 PM

We have in the past treated module 11 as primarily inspection or observational. I perform, or assign someone to perform, the inspections or observations and compile the information from the forms in a report I include with our Internal Audits reports. We create SOPs (no policy) for the few elements (like Calibration, cleaning and sanitation, compressed air quality testing etc.) that require it but those would be dependent on your specific situation. if you don't have a specific procedure for satisfying the element you shouldn't need to write one. The documentation just needs to be adequate for your purposes. Hope this helps.





Share this

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users