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Acceptable limit for Coliform/Fecal Coliform for Ready-to-eat Foods
Started by
catherine.delosreyes
, Jun 20 2018 09:32 AM
9 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 20 June 2018 - 09:32 AM
Hi,
Anyone here who may know what is the acceptable limit for coliform & fecal coliform for ready-to-eat foods? Appreciate if you could also share any references pertaining to the topic. Thanks.
Cheers,
Cath
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 12:55 PM
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 02:40 PM
Hi,
Anyone here who may know what is the acceptable limit for coliform & fecal coliform for ready-to-eat foods? Appreciate if you could also share any references pertaining to the topic. Thanks.
Cheers,
Cath
Hi catherine,
I assume you mean official/reference textbook standard.
Are you aware that official Philippine Food Micro.Standards exist ?
Product ?
Location ?
Coliform is not directly safety-related. Sometimes <100cfu/g but afaik this is just an empirical hygiene opinion.
Fecal coliform is sort of obsolete. Recommend to replace by generic E.coli.
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:13 AM Best Answer
Thank you!
#5
Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:31 AM
Hi Charles,
Thanks for your response. My reply in blue font below.
Hi catherine,
I assume you mean official/reference textbook standard. Yes, that's correct.
Are you aware that official Philippine Food Micro.Standards exist ? You mean the one issued by the Philippine FDA? I saw this already but it's for various manufactured / produced pproducts. Not for ready-to-eat / cooked food (i.e. viand prepared by a caterer).
Product ? Ready-to-eat food (i.e. pandan chicken, fried rice, etc.)
Location ? (Kitchen commissary)
Coliform is not directly safety-related. Sometimes <100cfu/g but afaik this is just an empirical hygiene opinion.
Fecal coliform is sort of obsolete. Recommend to replace by generic E.coli. I see. Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.
Catherine
#6
Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:25 AM
Hi catherine,
I assume you mean official/reference textbook standard.
Are you aware that official Philippine Food Micro.Standards exist ?
Product ?
Location ?
Coliform is not directly safety-related. Sometimes <100cfu/g but afaik this is just an empirical hygiene opinion.
Fecal coliform is sort of obsolete. Recommend to replace by generic E.coli.
Hi,
May I have last question? An RTE food lab result with a Coliform Count of 150 MPN & Fecal Coliform Count of 150, is this considered a failed result and indicative of a food safety risk?
Thanks for your possible answer.
Cheers,
Catherine
#7
Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:18 AM
Dear Catherine,
In addition to the information above, just a note that for certain export countries, Fecal coliforms in Ready-to-eat foods can be an issue as well (for example Japan).
Kind regards,
Gerard Heerkens
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#8
Posted 02 July 2018 - 09:09 AM
Hi,
May I have last question? An RTE food lab result with a Coliform Count of 150 MPN & Fecal Coliform Count of 150, is this considered a failed result and indicative of a food safety risk?
Thanks for your possible answer.
Cheers,
Catherine
Hi Catherine,
Apologies late reply. Never saw yr Post.
It's questionable to make a decision based only on one result. Additionally the factors are not specific pathogens. And the product type is unknown.
Commonly used accept/reject criteria, as you probably know, often use the nmMc system where n = 5.
Regardless, assuming the data mentioned is from a validated method, the results would probably be considered "high" for many foods.
Kind Regards,
Charles.C
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#9
Posted 02 July 2018 - 11:52 AM
Dear Catherine,
In addition to the information above, just a note that for certain export countries, Fecal coliforms in Ready-to-eat foods can be an issue as well (for example Japan).
Kind regards,
Gerard Heerkens
Thanks Gerard for that info.
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#10
Posted 02 July 2018 - 12:28 PM
Hi Catherine,
You're welcome ! Have a nice day !
Kind regards,
Gerard
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