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Posted 21 April 2020 - 01:58 PM

I have a question.

 

I recently changed jobs and this is a new industry for me. I went from RTE poultry production to something completely different and I'm still learning.

 

My Question is about Tempering- 

We receive Frozen 2,000 Lbs totes of Chicken Broth and i wrote a program for thawing in which I included  maintaining the product temperature at 40°F during the thawing process and 40-50°F during production. (the final Product will go thru a Kill step/CCP)

 

I can't find any literature/ supporting documentation for me to use the 50°F temperature in my procedure. I know i had it a couple years ago in one of my other jobs but I can't remember. Can any of you help me with your expertise.

 

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Posted 21 April 2020 - 02:10 PM

Have you tried looking on the FDA's website? I believe they may have some guidance on thawing product in a safe manner. 



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Posted 21 April 2020 - 03:07 PM

Hi,

 

For this qestion we need cosider about the temperature danger zone.to minimize the risk of microbial contamination thaw food need to be keep at 41F (5C) or lower.

 

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Edited by Eshan, 21 April 2020 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2020 - 06:10 PM

I have a question.

 

I recently changed jobs and this is a new industry for me. I went from RTE poultry production to something completely different and I'm still learning.

 

My Question is about Tempering- 

We receive Frozen 2,000 Lbs totes of Chicken Broth and i wrote a program for thawing in which I included  maintaining the product temperature at 40°F during the thawing process and 40-50°F during production. (the final Product will go thru a Kill step/CCP)

 

I can't find any literature/ supporting documentation for me to use the 50°F temperature in my procedure. I know i had it a couple years ago in one of my other jobs but I can't remember. Can any of you help me with your expertise.

 

Thank you.

https://www.fda.gov/.../80637/download

 

Take a look at Chapter 15 and staph aureus.  While chicken broth isn't a 'hydrated batter" perse, it does have a high Aw and falls under the same concept of high Aw, close-to-neutral-pH, and loads of stuff for bacteria to eat.   Since it's going through a kill step you primarily need to worry about toxin formation versus bacterial growth.  In this instance, the FDA reference does state <50F is unlikely to form a toxin.  You likely won't need to be worried about outgrowth of any vegetative pathogens provided your kill step is validated.  

 

I will qualify this whole blooming thing in that I'm in bakery, not meat, so I'm not the right source to say that Staph aureus would be your only concern for sure in that industry as far as outgrowth before a kill step. 



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Posted 23 April 2020 - 03:17 PM

Thank you all for your Help. 





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