Requirement 2.9.3

We have a couple of CCP's

Pasteurisation is 1 of them. the pasteurisation operator signs to say he has done a divert check (CCP) and the supervisor signs it at the end of each day.

similarly with metal detection

caz x

Dear vera,

IMHO, this BRC para which you refer is another pseudo - ISO clone as evidenced by the word "appropriate". It is basic and correct in standard HACCP techniques to require verification. The exact interpretation is typically arbitrary and many people write their own understanding of the term into their HACCP plan, eg checked by an authorised person, eg HACCP Coordinator, within 24 - 48 hrs whatever. It is also obviously stated that failures of critical points are dealt with immediately. An additional random time - based sampling of this data by a third person is added to reinforce the procedure, perhaps for a 6-month review.

However, in my inspectorial experience, it is typical to see pages of beautiful columns of 100% countersigned data on monitoring sheets all ready for the auditor up to the day he/she arrives. Both parties know that the the verifier would have to be superhuman to actually "audit" this volume of data. Typical examples are 1hr outputs from metal detectors.

To summarise, one cannot say the procedure is wrong, more of a necesary evil.

Rgds / Charles.C

Hi Caz,
Thank you for sharing what is happening at your site.
At my site, just on the retail production area we have 3 seperate processes (burgers, mince, steaks) and each of the different processes involves 4 CCPs (

Would it be appropriate to expect that all the records related with the monitoring of the CCPs should be verified on a daily basis? (all the records are already being signed of by the person monitoring the CCPs)

Thank you,

Vera

What actually happens with us is that the Team Leader / Supervisor collects the sheets at end of the shift, checks through them and countersigns the sheet once to verify that they are completed, etc etc

C x

Thank you,

Your replies were very useful to help me understand what is required.

kind regards,

Vera