6.10.2 Approved supplier Program
Started by retep, May 23 2012 09:20 PM
Hello everyone,
I just had my desk audit but this time was very confusing as to certain things. On section 6.10.2, The auditor told me that aside from the MSDS sheets that I would need certificates of analysis. Before I delve any further here is some background. We are a freight forwarding company and do not manufacture and products. Basically we get product (mostly super perishable items) in and warehouse them until they need to be shipped. We purchase out cleaning chemicals from Costco because we are a small company and does not seem effective for us to purchase from a large vendor. The only food contact surfaces we have are grading tables and forklift forks. We use bleach in our sanitation process due to being organically certified. The auditor has asked that we get specimen labels for these products. Any idea where I can get such things ? Also in the audit he addressed assigning risk levels to all the materials we use. Being that I could not find an already established rating set, I went with using NFPA ( because that was all I could think of at the moment) to assign ratings to these items. When I did this he said I was over complicating things because I can basically just judge the risk level myself without any scientific reference. Is this ok to do ?
I just had my desk audit but this time was very confusing as to certain things. On section 6.10.2, The auditor told me that aside from the MSDS sheets that I would need certificates of analysis. Before I delve any further here is some background. We are a freight forwarding company and do not manufacture and products. Basically we get product (mostly super perishable items) in and warehouse them until they need to be shipped. We purchase out cleaning chemicals from Costco because we are a small company and does not seem effective for us to purchase from a large vendor. The only food contact surfaces we have are grading tables and forklift forks. We use bleach in our sanitation process due to being organically certified. The auditor has asked that we get specimen labels for these products. Any idea where I can get such things ? Also in the audit he addressed assigning risk levels to all the materials we use. Being that I could not find an already established rating set, I went with using NFPA ( because that was all I could think of at the moment) to assign ratings to these items. When I did this he said I was over complicating things because I can basically just judge the risk level myself without any scientific reference. Is this ok to do ?
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Hi Retep,
You can judge risk level yourself but document the reasons. I guess COA is not required if these chemicals do not form part of the product.
MM
You can judge risk level yourself but document the reasons. I guess COA is not required if these chemicals do not form part of the product.
MM
Dear retep,
I’m a little confused about yr process. Re-packing ?
I deduce you are using chemicals for cleaning/sanitising table surfaces which (somehow) will unavoidably (?) contact yr (RTE?) product XYZ.
And the chemical(s?) are totally un-labelled ?
As stated, I would say the risk is easily estimated – High.
I once experienced a related situation to the above where several of a batch of (anonymous) 20L tanks of 10% hypochlorite contained phosphoric acid. Quite unpleasant.
As above interpreted, I’m not surprised yr auditor would have some safety reservations. Perhaps I've misunderstood.
Rgds / Charles.C
I’m a little confused about yr process. Re-packing ?
I deduce you are using chemicals for cleaning/sanitising table surfaces which (somehow) will unavoidably (?) contact yr (RTE?) product XYZ.
And the chemical(s?) are totally un-labelled ?
As stated, I would say the risk is easily estimated – High.
I once experienced a related situation to the above where several of a batch of (anonymous) 20L tanks of 10% hypochlorite contained phosphoric acid. Quite unpleasant.
As above interpreted, I’m not surprised yr auditor would have some safety reservations. Perhaps I've misunderstood.
Rgds / Charles.C
From what you state my answer would be in the form of a question - how did the Auditor rate you as the Practitioner? I ask because it does not appear that you are knowledgeable about the SQF codes. It is not the Auditors job to make recommendations/suggestions to you and in fact can be a violation to do so based on code of practice for auditors. The guidance that you seek is in the SQF code manual.
Hello everyone,
We purchase out cleaning chemicals from Costco because we are a small company and does not seem effective for us to purchase from a large vendor. The only food contact surfaces we have are grading tables and forklift forks. We use bleach in our sanitation process due to being organically certified. The auditor has asked that we get specimen labels for these products. Any idea where I can get such things ?
Hi there
Try contacting Costco and ask them or their head office for MSDS for the cleaning chemicals.
Regards,
Tony
If you google the chemical name with MSDS this can be helpful. Another good website to access chemcial MSDS's is a site called Chemwatch.
First the bottles were not completely unlabelled. They have a label containing the name and important parts of the MSDS sheet (by the way much more than a specimen label gives). I have no problem finding the MSDS for these products but it was mentioned that a specimen label would also be needed. I have spoke to someone else and the specimen label is also just a photocopy of the label on the packaging. My Food contact surface could arguably not be considered a food contact surface because what we do is receive berries, have them inspected, then grade them according to the customers specification. The berries come in packaged and are never removed from that package, nor do they actually touch a table without the barrier of a cardboard box. The problem I had was more of a bit of confusion that was cleared up with the help of a friend. I was looking for a resource on determining the risk with some sort of quantifiable facts behind it, if anyone has that resource.
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