Bactiscan as cleaning validation?
Hi all,
My colleague has sent me some information regarding Bactiscan.
Does anyone else use such a system to validate cleans, or detect areas that need further cleaning?
If you do use them, what are the benefits?
Hmm...interesting. I didn't know of it. I've used UV light before, but it does have limitations. If anyone has used Bactiscan I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences.
I don't know if it can be used to validate. If I were you I'd contact the company and get their input. Personally, I'd use it more to verify cleaning versus an ATP swab. But that depends on what bacteria it illuminates...if it is only biofilms then I don't think it can be used to verify or validate as you can have bacteria on a surface without a biofilm.
I have never used it / or heard of it either.
As their video shows, the only benefit I see is that you could check large areas for films.
It seems to me like the area would have to be a lot of bacteria present to be visible or a biofilm. id have to see more real life examples other than what is in thier reports.
Reads to me like an enormous ATP array
Nothing wrong with that---i guess................useful in a plant where sanitation is never done well I suppose, otherwise, probably not worth it
"Compared to ATP based systems, the Bactiscan is able to examine a much larger surface area and will reveal the presence of both alive and dead cells without needing any additional chemicals or reagents."
I would like to be able to push this Canadian invention https://www.producer...tects-bacteria/ but since it's been a decade and industry isn't using it...................
Bioscan will scan large areas and show up both active and none active targets in differing colours ie:green means live targets.
Great if your seeking to find contamination and swabbing everywhere you can only swab a 10cm x 10cm area and swabs are easily contaminated so you use a LOT of swab kits so you save on swab kits and time because your covering large areas each time
John
Off course you could always us a sanitizing system that is installed to your HVAC system and is none toxic and kills all Pathogens and sanitizes continuously with no danger to animals or humans. this improves your resistance to things like colds, flu and Covit. and will eliminate pathogen transfer within the room, then you wont need to swab and your bio-scanner will validate that the entire room is sterile. even if the pathogens are under a bioseal the sanitizing system will break the membrane and annihilate the active target
Campden Bri tested 3 bioscan units independently verifying the superiority of the Bactiscan heres the extract
These results show that in practice, the Bactiscan clearly indicated the presence of microorganisms at low medium and high levels of contamination, allowing easy identification of areas in which cleaning had not been effective. The cheaper competitor torch did not indicate contamination on any of these surfaces, despite the high levels of viable organisms on the sink overflow and safety shower spray head.
you can find the full report here chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.biopharm...BRI-FN.1120.pdf
Personally I've never used it and never seen it used. I think the perception that biofilms are common would be disturbing. I'd say on a floor surface, maybe. Otherwise if it's a surface which is easily accessible, then you'd have to wonder why it's not cleaned effectively. Biofilms used to be "the thing" people would discuss in my early years of the food industry. Yes they're absolutely possible but in high hygiene areas, I'd argue I've never been convinced they've caused me a massive problem. Nothing beyond asking someone to give a bit of welly behind scrubbing a floor anyway. I have heard of issues in tanks but that's been related to poor set up of CIP systems and probably inaccessible to see.
I've skimmed over the Campden validation and I'd be unconvinced the results would be as good in real world settings. Count me as a sceptic but as always with things like this, probably the best idea is to get it in to trial. Contact them and ask them to come and see you with a test unit if they'd be up for it.
Off course you could always us a sanitizing system that is installed to your HVAC system and is none toxic and kills all Pathogens and sanitizes continuously with no danger to animals or humans. this improves your resistance to things like colds, flu and Covit. and will eliminate pathogen transfer within the room, then you wont need to swab and your bio-scanner will validate that the entire room is sterile. even if the pathogens are under a bioseal the sanitizing system will break the membrane and annihilate the active target
Am I missing something on this one? The sanitising unit on an HVAC will only disinfect what is going through that air handling system (and only if it's maintained well). It won't necessarily eliminate everything in the room, only the air entering it. Sorry not sure what you mean by the "pathogens under a bioseal". Can you explain?
Hi all,
My colleague has sent me some information regarding Bactiscan.
Does anyone else use such a system to validate cleans, or detect areas that need further cleaning?
If you do use them, what are the benefits?
Sorry for the multiple posts. I was distracted by the post by Keydiagonistics.
To follow up the question on validation? Absolutely not. Validation should be via traditional microbiological methods. It could be part of your verification or monitoring of cleans but personally I'm a great believer in visually clean being under rated.