Validation Process for nuts and seeds
Hi all,
We are a nut and candy manufacturer working towards SQF certification. We currently roast many types of nuts, including peanuts and several tree nuts, and a few types of seeds in an oil roaster. I am looking into validation of roasting as a kill step for Salmonella. I know there is a validation study done on almonds that oil roasting for 260 F for 2 minutes achieves a 5-log reduction, but is there any one out there that roasts nuts that has used this standard for validation of a kill step on other types of nuts? For SQF, is this scientific data and our internal data on ensuring our worst case scenarios meet this standard enough for validation?
Thanks!
Hi all,
We are a nut and candy manufacturer working towards SQF certification. We currently roast many types of nuts, including peanuts and several tree nuts, and a few types of seeds in an oil roaster. I am looking into validation of roasting as a kill step for Salmonella. I know there is a validation study done on almonds that oil roasting for 260 F for 2 minutes achieves a 5-log reduction, but is there any one out there that roasts nuts that has used this standard for validation of a kill step on other types of nuts? For SQF, is this scientific data and our internal data on ensuring our worst case scenarios meet this standard enough for validation?
Thanks!
Dear sarahm,
Interesting post.
Not my product area so I cannot offer an industry norm. but the following document (eg pgs 25-27) indicates that the (2009) FDA answer (for peanuts/pistachios) to yr penultimate sentence was sort of yes (5D), but might by now be otherwise. Note that a practical temperature targetted above the minimum for (xD) is also recommended (common practice in other areas IMEX).
Industry_Handbook_for_Safe_Processing_of_Nuts 2010.pdf 1.56MB 253 downloads
This link also suggests that the current US situation may be in somewhat of a state of flux.
http://www.nytimes.c...ation.html?_r=0
Rgds / Charles.C
From a practical standpoint I am sure that our oil roasting processes are exceeding the 5 log reduction even though I don't have the data to prove it. When I look at our validation runs, which we have done with oil temperatures in the 275 range, we see that even though we may achieve a temperature in the nut bed of at least 265 for only a little over 2 minutes at least half of that time we are seeing temperatures of 270+ which will result in a higher lethality. Unfortunately, once again, their is a lack of data even on almonds to determine the exact lethality associated with higher temperatures, but even if one assumes a very large z value the additional lethality is significant.
Frankly the whole situation with the lack of published data is frustrating. As a small processor the cost of having the kind of studies needed done on your own is significant if not prohibitive, yet it would be very nice to have them. I had suggested several years ago to the PTNPA that they should form an industry group to share the cost of developing such data but it never went anywhere, perhaps because the large members have already done their own studies. I still think it would be worthwhile for a consortium of nut processors to get together and fund some studies so that we could share the cost of doing them.
Dear williamw,
Thanks for yr useful input.
I'm rather surprised that the type of data involved is not available since I remember a while ago coming across the website of the (something like) US "Nut Processors" organisation which offered an impressive-looking library of accessible technical documents albeit mainly available to members only (don't remember the range of the "nuts" though :smile: ).
Rgds / Charles.C
Thank you for the input- williamw this was exactly what I was looking for. It seems to me that it should be applicable across all nuts considering it is the inactivation of Salmonella on the surface that we are looking to achieve. Charles.C- there is a Peanut and Tree Nut Processors group, however their annual fees are in the $1000's and for a small company like us it is not feasible or practical to have this access. It is also very costly to do the inoculation studies and because we roast 10+ types of nuts and seeds the costs associated with inoculation studies is rather cost prohibitive.
check with Deibel labs in Jacksonville, FL. there is a Process Authority there that has done oil roasted nuts.
Dear williamw,
It’s an interesting topic so I have extended a bit.
A recent bit of ingenious archival digging by Snookie (see thread linked below) reminded me of the existence of some earlier, ca.2010, posts / threads on this overall topic. Notably that SQF (and FDA?) apparently had (have?) somewhat ambivalent views on the risk aspect of peanuts (and other roasted nuts.?).
I found this info. rather amazing considering the then recent disasters whose effects appear to still reverberate today, eg
http://en.wikipedia....(peanut_butter)
http://topics.nytime...2009/index.html
If the views remain unchanged, this may further explain the result in yr previous post #3 which, without any additional validation, I found an extremely questionable viewpoint as far as SQF’s apparent involvement is concerned.
Regarding the lack of action mentioned in yr last paragraph, I located a sort of “manifesto” issued post-disaster by PTNPA [not 100% sure since on another PC] which detailed the initiation of an investigation related to the type of points you mention. Haven’t had time yet to seek further info released in period 2009-present or read up on any of FDA’s previously referenced (ongoing?) research.. I daresay you are far more informed on this than I.
Earlier (2010) threads mentioned above are here (there may be others) –
http://www.ifsqn.com...isk/#entry37568
http://www.ifsqn.com...009/#entry35792
Rgds / Charles.C
PS - i noted the comments (eg post #6) on cost / processor organisations but I would anticipate that any (?) subsequent FDA -derived knowledge would be in the public domain.