Same person approve/verify forms ?

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Same person approve/verify forms ?

Started by DeeTeeQA, Oct 15 2015 12:57 PM

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15 October 2015 - 12:57 PM

Hello Everyone,

On this topic I have a question for Marshall, can the same person approve and verify a document? Or should these be two different people? Just curious.

Thanks for any answers.

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dv8dawn IFSQN Member · Answer 1 · 2015-10-15T14:11:17+00:00

No. With reference to 22000:2005, same person cannot be signed on both places….

Charles.C IFSQN Moderator · Answer 2 · 2015-10-15T16:52:35+00:00

No. With reference to 22000:2005, same person cannot be signed on both places….

Hi dv8,

Could you provide the reference paragraph in iso22000 standard ? (I cannot see it).

mgourley IFSQN Fellow · Answer 3 · 2015-10-15T22:59:29+00:00

Hello Everyone,

On this topic I have a question for Marshall, can the same person approve and verify a document? Or should these be two different people? Just curious.

Thanks for any answers.

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That entirely depends upon the standard and your business.

Generally, if you approve a document for use, I don't see why you would be restricted from verifying the information filled in on the document.

Remember, my answer was given without any context as to what the document is.

If your job is to approve a fill in the blank document for use, that's entirely different than "verifying" the information filled in.

If you create a work instruction, and verify that the document is correct, that's an entirely different animal.

Marshall

dv8dawn IFSQN Member · Answer 4 · 2015-10-19T08:33:35+00:00

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19 October 2015 - 08:33 AM

Please go thru CAC/RCP 1-1969, Section 11.....

Charles.C IFSQN Moderator · Answer 5 · 2015-10-19T18:22:56+00:00

Please go thru CAC/RCP 1-1969, Section 11.....

Please copy/paste the quote. Thanks.

dv8dawn IFSQN Member · Answer 6 · 2015-10-20T08:23:55+00:00

CAC/RCP 1-1969, Rev. 4-2003 - Annex:

Verification should be carried out by someone other than the person who is responsible for performing the monitoring and corrective actions.

mgourley IFSQN Fellow · Answer 7 · 2015-10-20T08:25:54+00:00

CAC/RCP 1-1969, Rev. 4-2003 - Annex:

Verification should be carried out by someone other than the person who is responsible for performing the monitoring and corrective actions.

Yes, but that is entirely different from what the OP asked.

Marshall

dv8dawn IFSQN Member · Answer 8 · 2015-10-20T08:37:46+00:00

Yes I agree with you Marshall. But with this quote our external auditor raised a minor NCR against our GHP checklist. Anyways… :smile:

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