Is validation required to release out-of-specification (OOS) product?
I have a question what about releasing OOS finished product ?
Any validation studies should be done ?
What about HACCP ? To do you have any recommendations?
If the product with OOS coliform will be released?
Dear Miniaczka90
could you explain about OSS?
I don't know about this product?
Thanks
Dear Miniaczka90
With HACCP and depend on Standard of your country, if target of out specification: this product must be hold.
Sometimes: if Coliforms (+) but E.coli (-) can be released
Hello All
I have a question what about releasing OOS finished product ?
Any validation studies should be done ?
What about HACCP ? To do you have any recommendations?
If the product with OOS coliform will be released?
coliform is a possible hygiene indicator. Not specifically related to safety.
the significance of any result relates to context, for example to -
product
spec. (legal/internal/customer)
sampling/analytical methodology
number of results
history
For example, the result of one isolated random sample from a batch may be totally meaningless.
The results of five random samples from a batch all being 100x yr customer's specification could be a major problem.
So please clarify.
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Hello miniacka 90,
Are you testing for Coliforms only or for E.coli too?
Coliform are high, and Ecoli in spec <10
Hey guys, thank you for all replies. We are testing for Coli and Ecoli .
Coliform are high, and Ecoli in spec <10
See my Post 5.
Need some data/context.
eg spec. coliform = ?
result coliform = ?
A logical initial follow-up would be to -
(1) validate the sampling/analytical procedures
(2) Assuming (1) is satisfactory, resample the related lot at an increased density to validate 1st result.
Spec less than 1000
Different batches over 2000 Cfu/g
But now, what action needs to be taken ? Haccp validation?
Ecoli less than 10
Hello , thank you for reply.
Spec less than 1000
Different batches over 2000 Cfu/g
But now, what action needs to be taken ? Haccp validation?
Ecoli less than 10
coliform is a possible hygiene indicator. Not specifically related to safety.
the significance of any result relates to context, for example to -
(a) product
(b)spec. (legal/internal/customer)
(c) sampling/analytical methodology
(d) number of results
(e) history
(f) For example, the result of one isolated random sample from a batch may be totally meaningless.
The results of five random samples from a batch all being 100x yr customer's specification could be a major problem.
So please clarify.
.
See my Post 5.
Need some data/context.
eg spec. coliform = ?
result coliform = ?
A logical initial follow-up would be to -
(1) validate the sampling/analytical procedures
(2) Assuming (1) is satisfactory, resample the related lot at an increased density to validate 1st result.
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Sorry but IMO impossible to be more specific without further details on Product/Process etc. A few micro. comments -
(a) yr spec/data is high for some products, not so much for others.
(b) Some methods may give inaccurate/high results for some products.
(c) One sample/lot is not advisable for basing major decisions.