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Do you need a FSMS manual and work instructions?

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Hello everyone, we are a new bread company and wanted to be certified by iso 22000 and brc we are currently documenting all the requirements with the help of a consultant he only gives us policies and procedures. Do we still need to make a fsms manual and work instructions? Thank you.
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Dear Urag,

 

Yes, you need a fsms manual and work instructions. As well as registration forms and test plans. All this must have been adapted to your company.

 

After all has been implemented, the quality system needs to work. So reading your post, there is still a lot of work to be done.

 

Good luck!

 

Kind regards,

 

Gerard Heerkens

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In addition to Gerard's comments, I believe auditors will look first or ask for your FSMS Manual and Work Instructions. They will try to check whether you have a documented system for all the requirements of ISO 22000 (or whatever standard you will use). And then from those documented systems and procedures they will check whether what is written is consistent with what is being done or what is being materialized in your plant.

 

So in short making the FSMS Manual and WIs are important.

Hi Urag,

 

One typical approach as initially, I think, introduced for ISO9000 series is to produce an iso22000 "Quality Manual" (a slight misnomer in the context of FS but now traditional).

 

This iso manual is basically a Policy (=upper tier iso triangle) Manual "covering" the requirements of the iso22000 Standard but also including a list/pointers of/to so-called Quality Procedures (= middle tier iso triangle structure).

 

The Quality Procedures then typically include links to related Work Instructions (= Lower iso tier) / Forms / Records as required.

 

Two examples of Quality Manuals are attached below. First uses a basic (generic) style, second is further detailed/elaborated for a specific application. You can compare the formats/contents.

 

ISO22000 - Food Safety Management System - Quality Manual.pdf   300.83KB   278 downloads

ISO 22000 FSMS Quality Manual (2).pdf   788.11KB   290 downloads

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Hi Urag,

 

Yes you do. I hope you are now clear with above explanations.

 

Cheers!

Dear Urag,

Yes, you need a fsms manual and work instructions. As well as registration forms and test plans. All this must have been adapted to your company.

After all has been implemented, the quality system needs to work. So reading your post, there is still a lot of work to be done.

Good luck!

Kind regards,

Gerard Heerkens



Thank you very much Sir gerard for your comment right now im the only one making this documents and it makes me confused what is the difference between a fsms manual and QA manual are the contents the same? Because a fellow workmate told me we didnt need a manual.

In addition to Gerard's comments, I believe auditors will look first or ask for your FSMS Manual and Work Instructions. They will try to check whether you have a documented system for all the requirements of ISO 22000 (or whatever standard you will use). And then from those documented systems and procedures they will check whether what is written is consistent with what is being done or what is being materialized in your plant.

So in short making the FSMS Manual and WIs are important.


Thank you very much. I appreciate your input god bless.

Hi Urag,

One typical approach as initially, I think, introduced for ISO9000 series is to produce an iso22000 "Quality Manual" (a slight misnomer in the context of FS but now traditional).

This iso manual is basically a Policy (=upper tier iso triangle) Manual "covering" the requirements of the iso22000 Standard but also including a list/pointers of/to so-called Quality Procedures (= middle tier iso triangle structure).

The Quality Procedures then typically include links to related Work Instructions (= Lower iso tier) / Forms / Records as required.

Two examples of Quality Manuals are attached below. First uses a basic (generic) style, second is further detailed/elaborated for a specific application. You can compare the formats/contents.

ISO22000 - Food Safety Management System - Quality Manual.pdf
ISO 22000 FSMS Quality Manual (2).pdf


Wow thank you very much sir for this.

Thank you very much Sir gerard for your comment right now im the only one making this documents and it makes me confused what is the difference between a fsms manual and QA manual are the contents the same? Because a fellow workmate told me we didnt need a manual.

 

Hi Urag,

 

FSMS manual and Quality Manual are just the same. FSMS manual is the term used in ISO 22000:2005 standard requirements. As for ISO 9001, Quality manual is the term they use. 

 

I hope this info may help.

 

You've said that you alone is documenting you're system. Well to tell you, I also experience that on my first job. You can do it. Good luck on your certification

 

 

-Patrick


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