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[Anne Z]

Hello all,

I'm reading the ISO 22000 to see which actions need to be taken if we want to be ISO 22000 certified.
7.3.3. Product characteristics does not apply to us as we do not own any of the products. We only store different types of edible oils and fats.

Can you rule out certain paragraphes like ISO 9001?

Kind regards,

Anne

[Zeeshan]

Hello all,

I'm reading the ISO 22000 to see which actions need to be taken if we want to be ISO 22000 certified.
7.3.3. Product characteristics does not apply to us as we do not own any of the products. We only store different types of edible oils and fats.

Can you rule out certain paragraphes like ISO 9001?

Kind regards,

Anne

The most interesting query I've ever read on IFSQN!

IMO, if your organization only stores food items then ISO 22000 is not for you as an auditable standard because, AFAIK, you can not rule out any clause/section of ISO 22000. If your organization need to be certified anyway you can follow BRC Storage & Distribution. You can also refer applicable "Good Hygiene Practices", "Good Storage Practices" and "Good Distribution Practices".

Regards:
M.Zeeshan

Edited by Zeeshan, 14 April 2011 - 11:30 AM.

[MichaelCert]

Anne

I manage FSMS certification for a UKAS-accredited certification body.

Your company can seek certification to ISO 22000:2005. Your activities come under food category H [distribution] as given in Annex A of ISO/TS 22003:2007.

ISO/TS 22003:2007 is the technical supplement published by ISO that sets the requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of FSMSs.

ISO 22000:2005 is a generic standard applicable to all organizations, irrespective of size, who are involved in any aspect of the food chain.

M Zeeshan is correct in that no clause form ISO 22000:2005 can be excluded. ISO 22000:2005 is not like ISO 9001:2008 in this respect.

However, both clauses 7.3.3.1 and 7.3.3.2 use the term “shall be described to the extent needed to conduct the hazard analysis”. The key phrase is “to the extent needed”. This means you can limit the descriptions of raw materials, ingredients, product contact materials and the characteristics of end products to that needed for hazard analysis of the storage of food products.

Your organization needs to determine to what extent you need to describe the characteristics of the products stored to be able to carry out effect hazard analysis so that food safety is assured.

I trust this helps.

Regards
Michael

Hello all,

I'm reading the ISO 22000 to see which actions need to be taken if we want to be ISO 22000 certified.
7.3.3. Product characteristics does not apply to us as we do not own any of the products. We only store different types of edible oils and fats.

Can you rule out certain paragraphes like ISO 9001?

Kind regards,

Anne

[Zeeshan]

Anne

I manage FSMS certification for a UKAS-accredited certification body.

Your company can seek certification to ISO 22000:2005. Your activities come under food category H [distribution] as given in Annex A of ISO/TS 22003:2007.

ISO/TS 22003:2007 is the technical supplement published by ISO that sets the requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of FSMSs.

ISO 22000:2005 is a generic standard applicable to all organizations, irrespective of size, who are involved in any aspect of the food chain.

M Zeeshan is correct in that no clause form ISO 22000:2005 can be excluded. ISO 22000:2005 is not like ISO 9001:2008 in this respect.

However, both clauses 7.3.3.1 and 7.3.3.2 use the term “shall be described to the extent needed to conduct the hazard analysis”. The key phrase is “to the extent needed”. This means you can limit the descriptions of raw materials, ingredients, product contact materials and the characteristics of end products to that needed for hazard analysis of the storage of food products.

Your organization needs to determine to what extent you need to describe the characteristics of the products stored to be able to carry out effect hazard analysis so that food safety is assured.

I trust this helps.

Regards
Michael

Thanks Michael!

You have nicely explained the key phrase that I'd missed to understand as intended. Thanks for correcting me.

Regards:
M.Zeeshan

[Anne Z]

Thank you all!

This will help understanding the ISO 22000 better.