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[Ainhoa Astob]

How does one possibly validate pre-requisites such as :

 

Raw material acceptance protocols (namely visual inspections in order to detect foreign body contamination )

Supplier assurance 

Foreign body control procedures in high care production areas 

 

etc etc 

 

I mean validation, not verification through internal auditing for example.

When I ask this question people give me validation of clean processes to eliminate the risk of allergen cross contamination OR temperature checks in serveral places of a full chiller together with bibliography with regards to chilled temperatures to validate chilled storage as a prerequisite.

 

Those are easy, but, how on earth does one validate prerequisites like the ones I mention above? is this even possible? (again , not verification )

 

many thanks all

 

 

[Charles.C]

How does one possibly validate pre-requisites such as :

 

Raw material acceptance protocols (namely visual inspections in order to detect foreign body contamination )

Supplier assurance 

Foreign body control procedures in high care production areas 

 

etc etc 

 

I mean validation, not verification through internal auditing for example.

When I ask this question people give me validation of clean processes to eliminate the risk of allergen cross contamination OR temperature checks in serveral places of a full chiller together with bibliography with regards to chilled temperatures to validate chilled storage as a prerequisite.

 

Those are easy, but, how on earth does one validate prerequisites like the ones I mention above? is this even possible? (again , not verification )

 

many thanks all

 

Hi AA,

 

There are some examples of "interpretation" on this forum (somewhere). i think the BRC Int. Guidelines also offers some comments.

 

A better answer but less helpful from BRC's  POV is that more enlightened standards only require verification, eg SQF, FSSC22000

 

PS - Welcome to the Forum !

[TAN85]

Hi there, 

 

I also find a lot of confusion between validation & verification! 

 

if your standard lists all the pre-requisites I would assume that acts as part of the validation? 

If however your PR's are based on internal requirements then link those to documented studies or internal risk assessments depending on your processes. 

This has been acceptable for me. I've linked many to my Haccp study and that seems to have been acceptable?