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[florarezai]

Hi

what percent off auditor time is spent on desk audit vs. the facility audit?

thanks

[SQFconsultant]

25/75

[florarezai]

25/75

Thank  you for replying. is this true for BRC audit as well as SQF audit?

[zanorias]

My BRC auditors generally spend the majority of the first day in the facility, and all of the second day office based. Note this being a 2 day audit, 3 may be required depending on operation size. However it always changes a bit depending on the auditor, some like to spend more time in the factory, and occasionally one will hand to head back into the factory on day 2. But on average I'd say around 60% time office/meeting room based and 40% production/site tour. (I assume this is what you refer to by desk/facility). 

 

Just mentioning in case you aren't already aware, the BRC standards have a colour designated to each clause - orange for production facilities and GMP, and green for records, systems and documentation. Both colour are for requirements assessed in both.

[Timwoodbag]

I am in a very clean facility doing a very low risk product, some auditors (SQF) will literally only spend an hour in production, and the other 12+ hours reading paperwork.  

[SQFconsultant]

Oops, my bad. I missed the  BRC part - I was referring to SQF.

[Mohamed2710]

This depends on the number of procedures, the size of the factory, the degree of risk, and the response speed (audited) during the audit

[Hoosiersmoker]

Unfortunately depends on the auditor too (sorry Glenn ). One of our auditors walked the entire plant (over 2 acres under 1 roof), talked to 6 or 8 employees in such a manner that they didn't even know they were answering questions. He inspected on, around and under everything, inside and out (he turned 70 this year). Then I had an auditor that stepped on to the production floor, stood in one place, turned twice to different angles then did the outside "inspection" which was him walking to the door next to the docks, looking out fr 5 seconds, walking to the other dock doing the same then retreating back to the office. Even then the first auditor it was about 60 / 40 but we are a packaging manufacturer.