5 replies to this topic

[Lida Zarifi]

Hi everyone, I have no idea, if our site is BRC certified, do I need to update ISO 9001 certificate as well? Because management is also part of BRC. Thanks in advance 

 

[Charles.C]

Hi everyone

I have no idea, if our site is BRC certified, do I need to update ISO 9001 certificate as well?

Because management is also part of BRC

Thanks in advance 

 

Hi Lida,

 

I suggest you elucidate whether yr site is BRC certified.

Similarly for ISO9001.

 

Afaik the BRC Standard has no direct dependency on ISO9001 unless stated so within the Standard or any other BRC-declared documents.

 

A search of the Standard yields zero hits (for me) for ISO 9001.

 

I am not aware of any specific references/dependencies in any Standard-associated BRC  documents ?

[zanorias]

Hi Lida,

Once confirming whether you do or don't have BRC and ISO 9001, I'd check whether you need to keep ISO 9001. Similar to Charles, I'm quite sure you don't need ISO 9001 for any direct compliance with BRC. However, I have known customers who require that suppliers have ISO 9001, regardless of whether the supplier has BRC or not, unfortunately. So I would check whether you have a commercial reason for keeping the ISO 9001 cert.

Btw you can check the BRC directory to see certified sites. Though I'd be very surprised if no one at your site knows! Ask Technical management or seniors.

[pHruit]

I'd read the OP's post as effectively saying: "we have BRC and ISO9001, but are considering ditching the latter if we can".

The answer to this may depend on the scope and implementation of ISO9001, how your company uses this, and what your customers expect (and how important they are to you ).

ISO9001 is potentially far broader than BRC, stretching into areas that BRC doesn't really have any direct impact on. This may or may not be beneficial in your specific case.

Similar to zanorias, I have also found that some customers do like to see additional "management systems" type certification alongside food safety certification. Admittedly some of those customers are misguided about a great many things, but they're the ones that pay the bills...

Assuming I've interpreted your question correctly, the answer is one that really only your company can know.

[Lida Zarifi]

I'd read the OP's post as effectively saying: "we have BRC and ISO9001, but are considering ditching the latter if we can".

The answer to this may depend on the scope and implementation of ISO9001, how your company uses this, and what your customers expect (and how important they are to you ).

ISO9001 is potentially far broader than BRC, stretching into areas that BRC doesn't really have any direct impact on. This may or may not be beneficial in your specific case.

Similar to zanorias, I have also found that some customers do like to see additional "management systems" type certification alongside food safety certification. Admittedly some of those customers are misguided about a great many things, but they're the ones that pay the bills...

Assuming I've interpreted your question correctly, the answer is one that really only your company can know.

Thank you so much

it is correct, we have both certificates and we are food manufacture,

ISO 9001 is valid till June 2021 and I wanted to know " as a BRC certified site do I need to update ISO for 2021?"

- top manager is happy with less money payment  and 

-BRC is customer requirement

but I though as ISO 9001 is totally for management system, it is better to keep it... So I wanted to know is it correct technically 

[liberator]

We have BRC and ISO 9001, but are looking at dropping ISO 9001 - it used to be held for some customers. In food manufacturing more customers are more accepting of GFSI aligned food quality standards (BRC, FSSC etc)  nowadays than ISO. See what your customers prefer.