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[QA2021]

Hello everyone,

 

We are producing food for animals and humans and i need to implement a sampling plan to control all our outgoing products.

for the frequency of control i will use this formula

frequency = production/100 x chance x seriousness.

 

this is the GMP+ requirement.

 

Do you think that i can use it also for human food?

 

 

Best regards

 

QA

[Charles.C]

Hello everyone,

 

We are producing food for animals and humans and i need to implement a sampling plan to control all our outgoing products.

for the frequency of control i will use this formula

frequency = production/100 x chance x seriousness.

 

this is the GMP+ requirement.

 

Do you think that i can use it also for human food?

 

 

Best regards

 

QA

 

Hi QA,

 

I think you lost a square root somewhere.

 

The "origin" and application of formula are described here -

 

 ts-1-7-monitoring.pdf   1.44MB   7 downloads

 

The formula appears to require a lot of "informed" guesses ( as do most other methods of course )

 

Unfortunately not many worked examples are given.

[QA2021]

Hi QA,

 

I think you lost a square root somewhere.

 

The "origin" and application of formula are described here -

 

ts-1-7-monitoring.pdf

 

The formula appears to require a lot of "informed" guesses ( as do most other methods of course )

 

Unfortunately not many worked examples are given.

 

Yes you are right. I forgot the square root.

 

Do you think that this formula could work for bulk product (milk, chocolate in powder)?

I apply it only for animal food for the moment.

[Charles.C]

Yes you are right. I forgot the square root.

 

Do you think that this formula could work for bulk product (milk, chocolate in powder)?

I apply it only for animal food for the moment.

 

Hi QA,

 

I would like to see the justification for the formula.

[QA2021]

Which judtification?

I didn't find any formula that's why i will use this one. Do you have any othee example that could be used for liquid (milk) and powder( chocolate)?
I made a lot of random analysis and i have a statistical datas of differents parameters( microbiology, heavy metals, fats...) But i don't know how to use those datas to establish a control frequency ?

Regards

[Charles.C]

Which judtification?

I didn't find any formula that's why i will use this one. Do you have any othee example that could be used for liquid (milk) and powder( chocolate)?
I made a lot of random analysis and i have a statistical datas of differents parameters( microbiology, heavy metals, fats...) But i don't know how to use those datas to establish a control frequency ?

Regards

 

Hi QA,

 

I am not a statistical expert however this link is an illustration of one reason for my question -

 

https://variation.co...-sampling-rule/

[Scampi]

1)  i hope your not making human grade food on the same line as animal feed.....

 

2) i wouldn't use the same frequency for human grade---that would require you to assume the risks are the same---they are not

 

The two materials you mentioned (flour and chocolate) should both arrive with a certificate of analysis.  Flour for ecoli in particular and chocolate for salmonella and ecoli